Just installed Thunder Air kit on my M50... - Motorcycle-Journal Forums

BillyBumbler · 12-10-2005, 05:43 AM

along with a Techlusion TFI. I set the pot settings to the same settings that the mfg. suggested for an M50 with Thunder Air AND V&H pipes. Hopefully, even though I'm sticking with the stock pipes, these setting will be an okay starting point. I hope so, because I've always sucked at gauging engine sounds and temperment. Anyway my main question here, after taking a quick jaunt around the block, it was too fast a trip for me to evaluate power or acceleration (it's late!) one thing that struck me was the noticeable sucking sounds coming from the air kit/intake area. Is this normal to now hear quite clearly all the air rushin in like that or does this indicate an air leak where the filter plate meets the adapter? There is no gasket there, but I don't want to start fussing with RTV and make a mess if the sound is normal. Strangley even though the pipes are stock they sound a little louder and deeper. Maybe my imagination. There was no backfiring or throttle hesitation, but a much longer ride is needed for me to evaluate that end.

jkulysses · 12-10-2005, 08:38 AM

I know with intakes on cars you can hear the intake sucking tons of air so I would imagine bikes are no different.

blackie1491 · 12-10-2005, 01:00 PM

I did not notice any noise from my K&N, but you may be flowing more air than me. You need to take it for a longer run, so you can run it thru all 3 ranges to see if any further adjustment is needed.
I know it made a diff. on my pipes, my mechanics keep asking if I have aftermarket pipes. I switched shops after my install, the shop I am at carrys
3 brands.
Also check with VolusiaRiders.com there are some Techclusions users there.

easypete · 12-10-2005, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BillyBumbler

Is this normal to now hear quite clearly all the air rushin in like that or does this indicate an air leak where the filter plate meets the adapter?

This is a common complaint on the VTX sites. I hear it occasionally at a fast idle, but I don't really hear it over the pipes when I'm riding.

QuacktheDuck · 12-10-2005, 01:27 PM

You will hear a sucking noise, that's the same on every vehicle (car, truck, etc) that runs an open element filter. It's only really audible at idle but it's the normal sound.

BillyBumbler · 12-10-2005, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jkulysses

Well, nothing we haven't seen before a million times, but okay:

The second one is me on my bike. Aren't I cute?

BillyBumbler · 12-10-2005, 05:35 PM

I went on an extended ride today. I'm happy with the power, the increase is noticeable. Throttle response and acceleration is good through all gears, I cannot detect any weak spots. Deceleration sounds just like it did before, no popping or anything. After I got back I let it idle for a few minutes and then blipped the throttle a few times to see if it would bog or backfire. It never bogged, but on one of the times in the dozen or so I tried there was a slight backfire. Something I should be concerned about? Which pot would be responsible for this? What drives me crazy is that there could be a perfect setting that I don't know about, but the expense of taking it to get dyno checked with the likely result of no noticeable change...I tried adjusting the first pot as the instructions indicate, but I couldn't detect the change in engine sound I was expecting. At high idle it sounded the same from 1:00 to 5:00, so I just left it at 3:30.

jkulysses · 12-10-2005, 08:58 PM

I actually haden't seen a pic of the round intake on an M50 yet. Looks good.

Danr · 12-11-2005, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BillyBumbler

I went on an extended ride today. I'm happy with the power, the increase is noticeable. Throttle response and acceleration is good through all gears, I cannot detect any weak spots. Deceleration sounds just like it did before, no popping or anything. After I got back I let it idle for a few minutes and then blipped the throttle a few times to see if it would bog or backfire. It never bogged, but on one of the times in the dozen or so I tried there was a slight backfire. Something I should be concerned about? Which pot would be responsible for this? What drives me crazy is that there could be a perfect setting that I don't know about, but the expense of taking it to get dyno checked with the likely result of no noticeable change...I tried adjusting the first pot as the instructions indicate, but I couldn't detect the change in engine sound I was expecting. At high idle it sounded the same from 1:00 to 5:00, so I just left it at 3:30.

There is no perfect setting, If your happy now then leave it alone other wise you will drive your self nuts. ENJOY it !!!!!!!!!

I have the teardrop air kit and indeed I do hear the sucking sound you describe, it's normal.

Pinhy · 12-11-2005, 03:58 PM

hadnt seen round yet either...interesting look.

you are much younger than i thought you were though, you must get that all the time?

.

Kurios · 12-12-2005, 05:34 PM

you guys have seen round before!

http://suzuki-bikes.com/forum/showth...?t=9578&page=4

BillyBumbler · 12-12-2005, 07:10 PM

That's actually where I got the idea to get round! I went with the solid black cover plate though, I still can't believe what they charge for it.

jkulysses · 12-12-2005, 08:44 PM

O ya, I remember that bike now. I just forgot what it looked like then. lol

jpwM50 · 12-15-2005, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by QuacktheDuck

You will hear a sucking noise, that's the same on every vehicle (car, truck, etc) that runs an open element filter. It's only really audible at idle but it's the normal sound.

Hey Quack, check out the new flame cover for your filter.!
tornado cover

Mavman · 12-15-2005, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jpwM50

Hey Quack, check out the new flame cover for your filter.!
tornado cover

I've seen that one too.

Question I got is, how would ya get it to stay on the filter....is there a way to fasten it on behind nearest the jugs, maybe...??

jkulysses · 12-16-2005, 12:10 AM

Damn thing almost cost as much as the actual intake. That is crazy. Looks cool though.

QuacktheDuck · 12-16-2005, 01:20 AM

yeah the cover looks cool but wow it's super expensive! lol it's ok, it doesn't really rain over here so having the filter exposed doesn't really bother me much. though we really need some moisture, quite bad in fact...where's the rain

?!

Uechi Kid · 12-16-2005, 11:30 AM

Looken good.,

Milton · 05-30-2006, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyBumbler

I went on an extended ride today. I'm happy with the power, the increase is noticeable. Throttle response and acceleration is good through all gears, I cannot detect any weak spots. Deceleration sounds just like it did before, no popping or anything. After I got back I let it idle for a few minutes and then blipped the throttle a few times to see if it would bog or backfire. It never bogged, but on one of the times in the dozen or so I tried there was a slight backfire. Something I should be concerned about? Which pot would be responsible for this? What drives me crazy is that there could be a perfect setting that I don't know about, but the expense of taking it to get dyno checked with the likely result of no noticeable change...I tried adjusting the first pot as the instructions indicate, but I couldn't detect the change in engine sound I was expecting. At high idle it sounded the same from 1:00 to 5:00, so I just left it at 3:30.

The TFi I bought must have been old stock because there was no mention of the M50 in the instructions. I have also ordered a Tornado air kit and have drilled out the back baffle.. Could you let me know which settings worked best for you please? Thanks!

12-10-2005, 05:43 AM	#1 (permalink)
BillyBumbler Kickstand Operator Joined: Oct 2005 Bike: 2005 M50 Black Location: Bakersfield, CA Posts: 268	Just installed Thunder Air kit on my M50... along with a Techlusion TFI. I set the pot settings to the same settings that the mfg. suggested for an M50 with Thunder Air AND V&H pipes. Hopefully, even though I'm sticking with the stock pipes, these setting will be an okay starting point. I hope so, because I've always sucked at gauging engine sounds and temperment. Anyway my main question here, after taking a quick jaunt around the block, it was too fast a trip for me to evaluate power or acceleration (it's late!) one thing that struck me was the noticeable sucking sounds coming from the air kit/intake area. Is this normal to now hear quite clearly all the air rushin in like that or does this indicate an air leak where the filter plate meets the adapter? There is no gasket there, but I don't want to start fussing with RTV and make a mess if the sound is normal. Strangley even though the pipes are stock they sound a little louder and deeper. Maybe my imagination. There was no backfiring or throttle hesitation, but a much longer ride is needed for me to evaluate that end.

12-10-2005, 01:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
QuacktheDuck Sprocket Pilot Joined: May 2005 Bike: 2004 FZ6 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 858	You will hear a sucking noise, that's the same on every vehicle (car, truck, etc) that runs an open element filter. It's only really audible at idle but it's the normal sound. __________________ Quacktheduck is one lucky duck. Miss my v-strom...06/14/06, the best i ever had...

12-10-2005, 05:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
BillyBumbler Kickstand Operator Joined: Oct 2005 Bike: 2005 M50 Black Location: Bakersfield, CA Posts: 268	I went on an extended ride today. I'm happy with the power, the increase is noticeable. Throttle response and acceleration is good through all gears, I cannot detect any weak spots. Deceleration sounds just like it did before, no popping or anything. After I got back I let it idle for a few minutes and then blipped the throttle a few times to see if it would bog or backfire. It never bogged, but on one of the times in the dozen or so I tried there was a slight backfire. Something I should be concerned about? Which pot would be responsible for this? What drives me crazy is that there could be a perfect setting that I don't know about, but the expense of taking it to get dyno checked with the likely result of no noticeable change...I tried adjusting the first pot as the instructions indicate, but I couldn't detect the change in engine sound I was expecting. At high idle it sounded the same from 1:00 to 5:00, so I just left it at 3:30. Last edited by BillyBumbler; 12-10-2005 at 05:39 PM.

12-16-2005, 01:20 AM	#17 (permalink)
QuacktheDuck Sprocket Pilot Joined: May 2005 Bike: 2004 FZ6 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 858	yeah the cover looks cool but wow it's super expensive! lol it's ok, it doesn't really rain over here so having the filter exposed doesn't really bother me much. though we really need some moisture, quite bad in fact...where's the rain ?! __________________ Quacktheduck is one lucky duck. Miss my v-strom...06/14/06, the best i ever had...

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12-10-2005, 08:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
jkulysses Sprocket Pilot Joined: Sep 2005 Bike: 2006 Blue M50 Location: Oregon Posts: 832	I know with intakes on cars you can hear the intake sucking tons of air so I would imagine bikes are no different.

12-10-2005, 01:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
blackie1491 I took the All Bran Challenge Joined: Jun 2005 Bike: C50SE Location: Aldergrove, B.C., Canada Posts: 7,330	I did not notice any noise from my K&N, but you may be flowing more air than me. You need to take it for a longer run, so you can run it thru all 3 ranges to see if any further adjustment is needed. I know it made a diff. on my pipes, my mechanics keep asking if I have aftermarket pipes. I switched shops after my install, the shop I am at carrys 3 brands. Also check with VolusiaRiders.com there are some Techclusions users there.

12-10-2005, 08:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
jkulysses Sprocket Pilot Joined: Sep 2005 Bike: 2006 Blue M50 Location: Oregon Posts: 832	I actually haden't seen a pic of the round intake on an M50 yet. Looks good.

12-11-2005, 03:58 PM	#10 (permalink)
Pinhy Doesn't think you're funny Joined: Dec 2004 Bike: 05 Boulevard M50 Black Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 5,210	hadnt seen round yet either...interesting look. you are much younger than i thought you were though, you must get that all the time? .

12-12-2005, 05:34 PM	#11 (permalink)
Kurios Where Am I ? Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 26	you guys have seen round before! http://suzuki-bikes.com/forum/showth...?t=9578&page=4

12-12-2005, 07:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
BillyBumbler Kickstand Operator Joined: Oct 2005 Bike: 2005 M50 Black Location: Bakersfield, CA Posts: 268	That's actually where I got the idea to get round! I went with the solid black cover plate though, I still can't believe what they charge for it.

12-12-2005, 08:44 PM	#13 (permalink)
jkulysses Sprocket Pilot Joined: Sep 2005 Bike: 2006 Blue M50 Location: Oregon Posts: 832	O ya, I remember that bike now. I just forgot what it looked like then. lol

12-16-2005, 12:10 AM	#16 (permalink)
jkulysses Sprocket Pilot Joined: Sep 2005 Bike: 2006 Blue M50 Location: Oregon Posts: 832	Damn thing almost cost as much as the actual intake. That is crazy. Looks cool though.

12-16-2005, 11:30 AM	#18 (permalink)
Uechi Kid Fourth gear and illegal Joined: Sep 2005 Bike: 04 M95, Yamaha VStar 650 Location: Antioch, Ca. Posts: 744	Looken good.,

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