1st Bike....GS500F

[tricker]

I'm actually too lazy to look for grammatical errors. But I have used my bike's power to escape certain situations. Some probably thought I was being aggressive from my vantage point it was more of a assessment of the situation and I didn't like it so i escaped it.

[Easy Rider]

Originally Posted by ricketycricket

If you all worry about what the general public thinks of you then that's really pathetic

And if you really don't care what anybody else thinks about you.......then that is being a sociopath. You are building a REALLY good case for that diagnosis.

Oops, I forgot, you aren't reading my posts. Kiss,kiss!

[Trapper]

Would you two STFU. And reporting posts to whine about how each other is treating the other is, in my opinion, the most childish thing I've seen in my five years on this board. Go to the disney channel BB if you must act this way.

Oh, and rickety, if you don't care what people think, why did you report Easy Riders (AKA $hitdisturber) post?

[Trapper]

Site rules are up to interpretation by me and the rest of the team.

[jkersh]

Originally Posted by ricketycricket

If you all worry about what the general public thinks of you then that's really pathetic and I would suggest therapy sessions because if it bothers you what a random stranger thinks of you - then you got serious issues and need to learn to be yourself hombre.

Sportbikes are only frowned upon by people too scared to ride them ...

You should car about what the public thinks about motorcycles. We are a small group with a lot to lose. We need to get noticed but not in that way. I admit that I have driven 90 on a highway but I am not proud of it. I now have a family and I see things in a totally different eye than I used to. Maybe one day you will grow up and see that the world doesn't revolve around you. On that highway there are a lot of people and kids at risk. I wouldn't want the harm of a child on my conscience.

[Trapper]

Originally Posted by ricketycricket

so are there actually any forum rules? or are they more of just guidelines? I think establishing a rule set would stop someone from reporting posts that weren't actually violating a rule, if it's just guidelines it leaves it more to the discression of people opinions as to what violates a rule, meaning more "report abuse" clicks that you have to investigate, and then rule upon based upon your discussions with your team.

Or... you could stop trolling the board and start acting your age.

[jkersh]

Originally Posted by ricketycricket

90 is a very controllable speed and if you have no one around you then you can stop if needed. Going 90 is not some terrible thing.

Here 90 is a loss of license.

[intimid8er]

[Trapper]

Here's a thread that may give you the clarification you need. Maybe you'll understand better than the asshat that started that thread. He got banned.

http://www.motorcycle-journal.com/fo...rum-rules.html

[Trapper]

Didn't say you were going to get banned. Didn't say the other asshat got banned for that thread either.

How can a 250 be too small for a beginner? Who's it made for?

[tj1964]

[intimid8er]

Originally Posted by ricketycricket

My Bad - i kind of read intonation into your post before when you linked it - like if you keep asking about forum rules like this guy - you will become him..

race track 250 days... I guess I phrased that last post wrong a little, its more of for people who want a motorcycle I wouldn't say a 600 is too big, because if you want to take the motorcycle on the highway a 600, but for some people who say that they should only have a 250 if you're going with a sports bike because 600's are too powerful... which was said earlier. And I think that that statement is wrong - which is why I brought up the point of on the highway if you need to get away from a car thats tailing you, then a 250 would be dangerous.

First and foremost...

MSF and every other legitimate riding instruction course, and ALL the State DMV "Riding Tips for Licensing" websites I could find online unequivocally state that the rules for handling tailgaters are: Slowing down even further so they have a better opportunity to get around you. Failing that. The next option is to either pull to the side of the road and let them go around. And if you're on a highway, and you fear for your safety, take the next exit.

I'm scratching my head trying to find any organization that advocates twisting the throttle to get out of that potentially dangerous situation. BTW a Ninja 250 by all reports tops out at 107 - 125 mph. Certainly more than enough for a newb.

Another note on the "using the power to get me out of a bad situation". Again, MSF's stance when approaching an intersection. You of course are supposed to be scanning for a dangerous scenario. Next you are to be covering the brake.

Using the throttle as your "safety" valve to "get out of a bad situation" is poor advice to newbs, and also, it's like trying to put out a fire with a fire.

[Trapper]

Any 250 cc bike can accelerate fast enough to increase the distance in order to safely pull over. Unless the Lamborghini driver following you can read your mind and accelerate at the exact same time you do.

[intimid8er]

Originally Posted by ricketycricket

All reports huh?
Kawasaki Ninja 250R - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Says 95 here.
250 Top Speed?... - Kawasaki Motorcycle Forums Says 100 here.. that's weird, your "by all reports" statement is rapidly losiong credibility.
What is a Ninja 250's to MPH? - Yahoo! Answers Another not saying 107-125. Can you please provide backup for your statement?

We can all play this game.....

Nice creative manipulating. In one of your quoted articles where you claim they only mention it's 100 mph..there are other accounts of 105-110 mph.

You know as well as I do you can pull up at least fifteen links that will quote 105-115 mph.

As to your "instructor" friend that you ride with...and you quoted the MSF....

I'm a little slow and stupid on certain things...please show me in your quote where you need a bike capable of a 180 mph to "build distance" from a tailgater" Your quote did little to bolster your argument. In fact you just paraphrased my post and strengthened my argument, although, I left out the build distance part of it because I made the assumption that we've already gone past the part of having a possible inattentive driver behind you that mindlessly got too close.

[jprisme]

how many feet per second do you lose if your 600 only goes 168- 171... lol. speed shouldnt matter when it comes to the cc of the bike i thought it was comfortable. i laugh at all the cars that want to race... because you must have a hell of a lot of torque to match frankly any motorcycle... hypothetically 100 hp and the bike ways 500 pound (bike plus you) for every 1 horsepower 5 pounds. and well i drove some dam minibike that were 5 horspower and i could do 20 to25 and i am 225... all im saying is f the argument f the counterargument we are a bike thread not a drama thread... there goes my opera moment for the hour lol

[jprisme]

u guy are funny though. thank for the laugh in times of finals

[jkersh]

Originally Posted by ricketycricket

This is taken directly from the MSF website:

"Drivers that tailgate pose a hazard. They may not be able to stop as quickly as motorcyclists. It is important not to let a tailgating driver distract you from SEEing ahead. In general, it is best to increase your following distance from vehicles ahead to give yourself time and space to execute a smooth, gradual stop. This avoids putting tailgating drivers in a position that requires them to make a quick stop.
Some other options to respond to a tailgating driver are:
• Flash your brake light (communicate your intentions)
• Gradually reduce speed to create more space in front (adjust speed)
• Maintain a lane position that discourages sharing the lane (adjust position to protect your lane), or change lanes
• Turn at the next opportunity"

Thats what the MSF says. What my course instructor (whos been riding for 20 years) said differ, and I find his advice invaluable.

Did you read your post? It doesnt say anywhere to accelerate away from tailgaters. In fact it says the opposite. It says increase your following distance from vehicles AHEAD so that you will have ample stopping distance.

[Nimbly]

Originally Posted by ricketycricket

Dear Nimbly,
motorcycles and cars go over 90 mph.

Let me tell you a story. One day I was on 495 (a highway near me, all you need to know) travelling 85 in the left lane. A porsche decides it would be fun to get about 5 feet off my back wheel. No one else is on the road. I move into the center lane to allow said porsche to pass... instead of passing the porsche moves into the center lane behind me and continues to follow at about 5 feet off my tire... what do you think you should do in this scenario? Do you want me to brake check him? that's a fckin stupid idea on a motorcycle.. maybe I should pull into the next lane to allow him to pass since no one else is on the road - oh wait - i already did that too. It seems mr porsche wants to use his fast car to toy with other people cause hes so cool. So what are my options.. pull over to the side of the road, which he might do too - you never know he's followed me so far.. or use my 142 hp at the wheel motorcycle, drop it to third gear, and put that car far behind me quick before he rear-ends me by accident.

You can correct me if i'm wrong here nimbly but I believe you are new to the motorcycle world(i might be thinking of someone else) so I will let the squid comment pass, but if you have been riding a while - you might want to learn the definition of squid so you can say it and know what it means - I will instruct you to its proper meaning. SQUID. S-stupidly, q-quick, u-undergeared, imminently dead. there are more meanings let me put them here for you as well - slang dictionary defines it as "squid
Someone lacking in ability or skill, especially in a sport or activity." Here it is from wikipedia - "Stupidly Quick, Underdressed, Ignorant and Dangerous"
"Stupidly Quick, Underdressed and Imminently Dead"
"Super Quick Until I Die"
"Speeding Quickly Until I Die"

Now let me go through these for you. one by one. Stupidly quick - 90 is not THAT fast, if I was like "as I was zigzagging and lane splitting at 130 MPH" then it would be. Undergeared - I was in motorcycle pants, jacket, gloves, boots, and a full face helmet - is that undergeared? Imminently dead - well I'm still here so that doesn't really match up either.. ok, so i'm not definition 1. lacking in ability or skill - well I can drive a motorcycle, have been driving for 8 years (i'm not a pro, but i'm giong to assume that means I have the ability to ride a motorcycle, so I cant be lacking in that).. lacking in skill - now i'm no valentino rossi - but since I've done a few track days and have taken a few courses - i'm going to say I have a decent amount of skill - nothigni outrageous - i'm not a racer in a league or anything, but I have enough skill to drive a measly 90 mph. So I don't fall under that definition of squid either.. crap we're running out of options here quickly nimbly! Now since the other 3 definitions have to do with dying as well, and clearly I am still here as you can see from the fact I'm typing this, those don't really apply to me either. If you're saying going 90 is a bad decision and that makes me a squid - well you've never really driven your bike then if you've always kept the speed to 40 mph and below.. so I will urge you to please take your bike to a track and let her open up a little. Or drive in MA at 65 and see how many people flip you off and tailgate you.

Looks to me like going 90 in on the highway would not technically qualify me as a squid.

My questions to all of you freaking out about going 90 - have none of you ever done 90 on your motorcycle? If you're claiming it's stupid to speed then any one of you who has gone 66 in a 65 (which is the speed limit on all highways around here) are guilty of speeding, and by your logic are unsafe...

Go ahead and make fun of my grammar/spelling errors - i'm not going to bother to correct them.

You are mistaken. I am new to the forum but have been riding for almost 10 years. Seems to me, you should have pulled over and stopped. Just my opinion but a car (any car) is a lot safer then a bike. Same deal with drunks. If they are way in front or way behind they cant hit you. 90 mph may be fun, but here in Oregon they ticket 100 bucks for every mile over the limit. Speed limit around here is 55. Almost 40 over is reckless endangerment and a night in county. I don't speed. Car or bike if someone is on my ass I pull to the side and slow way down until they pass. Cat and mouse on a sport-bike with a car, 90 mph, public road... Squid! You guys hit each other you die. Not him.

[Trapper]

Exactamundo

[intimid8er]

Originally Posted by Trapper

Exactamundo

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