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Old 12-06-2007, 11:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Poping the clutch

I have heard that if you pop the clutch on 600's you can pop a wheelie.
My question is how do you pop the clutch? I know if you have a 1K or better it will just lift. Any advice?

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Old 12-06-2007, 11:26 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Not something I'd advise.

Not something we really advocate around here either.

However, that said, if you search (I'm a little lazy right now ) there was a recent discussion about wheelies and the power bands on 600's.

If you can't find it, Google/YouTube provides a wealth of info on the subject.

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Old 12-06-2007, 11:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
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The catholics don't like people Poping the clutch.

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Old 12-06-2007, 12:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
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actually... just the priests they prefer not to do that
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Red face No dummy here

I totally understand! Not saying it's something I want to do. I'm no stunt dummy so let's get that out the way. I love life and will not try something stupid to risk it on a bike at that! My wife would kill me again if I leave her too early. My reason for asking is I sold my bike to a friend. He sold it back because he couldn't afford it after while. Before I bought it back i told him I would only take it back in the condition I sold it.

Well when I got it the clutch was messed up. So I spent 800 on getting that fixed. The dealer told me it seem like if some one was popping the clutch it may have damage it. My friend let his cousin ride it and all we heard was about him doing wheelies on it. So I was curious to what and how he was doing it.
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:16 PM   #6 (permalink)
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clutch slipping is the best way to wheelie from any speed but is also the best way to flip it if you try too big too soon. If youre gonna learn to wheelie, first practice cutting off the throttle in first around 7000rpm then blip the juice and it'll lift. just start small mate and always be ready with your rear brake. Learning throttle control and balance is what its all about. Going straight out for big height clutch wheelies is not the way to learn. Small steps will teach you lots, Too big too early will end up hurtin..

Oh and the biggest quick killer for clutches is burnouts.


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Old 12-06-2007, 01:19 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Good post, gsxcor. I don't think covering the rear brake is necessary, though. If you whack it up so quickly that engine braking doesn't bring it down, you likely won't have time to hit the brake anyway. Inline-four engine braking is more than adequate to slam your nuts back down in a hurry.

The damage to your clutch probably didn't come from "popping" it, but from all the slipping (and burning) that occurred while lousy riders tried to do something they weren't capable of in the first place. The best way to learn to wheelie is to become a very good rider first. Clutch and throttle control are paramount, and you can't learn them very well by just going out and beating on a bike.
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Old 12-06-2007, 02:43 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Cheers mate
but being a 600, id be covering the brake. Flat out power mono's, Yeah no need but After playing on a mate's 600, they still dont have much engine brakeing and i found it very twichy to wheelie because all the power is after 8000rpm. Rear brake has saved me lots over the years.My 1000 is cool to rely on engine brake but ive still dabbed the rear plenty of times to pull it back down without complete throttle shut off resulting in bike slamming and fork seal popping. And its also good practice to dab it a little when trying to learn slower controlled wheelies.
But hey, thats just my thoughts.
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Old 12-06-2007, 02:45 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Exactly. You can clutch the Pope . . . just don't Pope the clutch. It's disrespectful and confusing.

Dude, if you have to ask, you may want to go buy a little used dirtbike and practice on that. FWIW, I don't do wheelies (on purpose).
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But hey, thats just my thoughts.
Cool. I have no experience on 600s. Thanks for that.
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I do ...(on purpose.. ha) Im a lot more relaxed these days but i used to live for them. Its very dangerous while learning, but a great feeling to rock out big stand ups confidently. Cant beat adrenaline mate..
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Exactly. You can clutch the Pope . . . just don't Pope the clutch. It's disrespectful and confusing.
Is that anything like Beatin' the Bishop?

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Old 12-06-2007, 04:22 PM   #13 (permalink)
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YouTube - How to wheelie off the clutch

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YouTube - How to wheelie a Motorcycle

This is how you start, and forget all the wheelie movies you have seen. If that's your starting point, you are gonna crash and burn, crash and burn. It looks so easy in the vids, but everyone is on their own. Start slow and don't try being a hero.
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I dont wheelie at all. To much at stake (8000 dollar bike, wife and kids, ect.....) But i have wheelied by accident just by holding her wide open in 1st and 2nd gear, and when it hit about 7-8000 rpms, it lifts off itself. But I have a 2006 750.
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Old 12-10-2007, 02:04 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I always heard the rule of thumb was about 2 k less than redline and let her go; mind you that the bike is in gear because the synchros don't like to work at the kind of engine speed. At least not for long.

8 bills to replace the clutch; wow and all they did was replace $200 in parts, maybe a bit more.
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Old 12-22-2007, 09:49 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I must admit im a bit of a wheelie addict

But like gsxrcor im chilled out now im not a squib? as you call them in the states.

Theres a time and a place and i wheelie for me alone not just to impress..

Like the man says if your going to learn take your time and do it on your own or with people you know well.

It will kill your clutch though, after 15000 miles mine was shot.

needed new center, basket,springs, plates,steels and release bearing.

still for the amount of fun iv had....

As for covering the rear brake.. yeah you can do that but unless you are well practised in its use you will going over the back thinking i should dab the brake about now as your butt hits the deck.

trust me i know

just remember time and place!!!
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