the perils of powder coating - Motorcycle-Journal Forums

gar4mayor · 02-07-2007, 02:47 PM

in my ongoing war against chrome (and other surfaces that involve lots of cleaning), i have given serious thought to purchasing this:
Craftsman 17288 Powder Coat System at Sears.com

has anybody had any issues with this machinery? or with powder coating in general?

any advice, suggestions, or other nuggets o' wisdom are appreciated.

peter-reebok · 02-07-2007, 03:07 PM

Have powder coated many parts over the years - even my front fence!

Would choose this over paint any time.

No experience with home kits - I generally get my local guy to do it for me.
If I can give him a week, rather than wanting to come back next day - Much cheaper price!.
I also stick to common use colours. Then he can do it with another customers work - and he saves on time.

Years of wear in powder coating if done right.

geoffsimpson · 02-07-2007, 03:39 PM

I'm with you, I'm a card carrying member of the no-chrome militia...not that I prefer plastic, but give me a nice crinkle coat in black powder any day. I'd be interested in giving that little tool a go...I have'st seen it here, but then again it's canada...We're just getting hyper-color t-shirts and the laser disc

gar4mayor · 02-07-2007, 04:10 PM

i'll probably go and buy it this friday. gotta have something to do on a rainy weekend with no football.

i have the stock mirrors lying around and i'll coat one for a trial run. hopefully it will fit in an old toaster oven.

pictures to follow.

**Clint** · 02-07-2007, 04:21 PM

No harmful fumes, but don't use it in your home oven?

Rockhead · 02-07-2007, 04:24 PM

Use an Easy bake Oven........

gar4mayor · 02-07-2007, 04:42 PM

nah, i'll use it in an old toaster oven.

saves the easy bake for pastries at my tea parties.

Sullyboo · 02-07-2007, 05:05 PM

I am also not much of a chrome boy. I almost bought a Harley Street Bob that was almost all power coated. Sorry I did not mean to use the H word.
This may just be the way to go.

chadrob30 · 02-07-2007, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockhead

Use an Easy bake Oven........

Hasbro recalls 1 million Easy-Bake Ovens - Consumer News - MSNBC.com

profane · 02-08-2007, 03:09 PM

hmmm, I have my doubts about that thing. If you get it let us know if it was worth the money.

Our powder coat system at work is huge. With about an hour to process one peice if you wait for it to return to the same spot in which it was hung at. Though it has a manual booth and 5 automatic booths.

So it's hard for me to picture something like that.

You wont be able to put into an oven. You will knock the powder off.... You will be better off having a lamp system that can run up to about 450. I've never seen a system run under 470 however.

texrider · 02-08-2007, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gar4mayor

i'll probably go and buy it this friday. gotta have something to do on a rainy weekend with no football.

i have the stock mirrors lying around and i'll coat one for a trial run. hopefully it will fit in an old toaster oven.

pictures to follow.

Dude, don't powdercoat the glass part of the mirrors, eh?

gar4mayor · 02-09-2007, 09:32 AM

Believe me, i've got my doubts about whether this is going to work. But i think it will be worth the expense if it does. I would much rather take it to a professional, but around here they are just asking for too much cash. What finallly convinced me to try this is this site:
Riser's Powder Coating Trials

the biggest thing i'll probably coat is the mirrors.

Goldfinger · 02-09-2007, 10:46 AM

Eastwood also has a powdercoating system. Actually, they have a couple of them. Eastwood Company: Auto Tools, Body Repair, Classic Car Restoration, House of Kolor Paint, Powder Coating

I watched a program (it may have been My Classic Car) where the guy demonstrated using the lower priced system. He did an air cleaner lid. He made a little rack to suspend it from and after applying the powder he put the rack into an old oven that he had in the garage. It turned out really cool. I haven't personally tried it yet but have been thinking of getting one. I'm not familiar with the Craftsman one.

SACSQD · 02-10-2007, 06:57 PM

My 2006 black M50 is having all the chrome that is not plastic powder coated black. The plastic looking chrome pieces are being painted black to match the powder coat. Pictures willl be posted by the end of the week.

Don M50limited · 02-10-2007, 08:13 PM

Tease.......

Looking forward to seeing it......

scrimmer · 02-10-2007, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldfinger

... I haven't personally tried it yet but have been thinking of getting one. I'm not familiar with the Craftsman one.

If you do, please share your info on it, I'm sort of intrigued myself!

gar4mayor · 02-11-2007, 06:08 PM

well, everything turned out pretty good. the powder coating tool is pretty darn easy to use, very little mess, and the coating is solid. the pictures show one of the o.e.m. mirrors coated, and a throttle boss.

also since i had the pair valve cover lying around, i tried to see if the "chromed plastic" would hold up during the curing phase. the answer would be no (see pic).

scrimmer · 02-11-2007, 06:44 PM

Wow! The powdercoat actually makes me want to keep the mirrors now...
looks great!

profane · 02-12-2007, 05:09 AM

Looks nice. I looked at the eastwood site and watched one of their videos. Doesn't seem like a bad set up. Looks like your arent limited except for the size of what ever you are usuing to cure the powder.

What all are you going to coat on your bike?

gar4mayor · 02-12-2007, 11:01 AM

well, my plan is to coat everything that's chrome, won't melt, and will fit in a standard size oven. i did just do the o.e.m. engine guards and they came out pretty nice.

the powder that i use is the matte black one from harbor freight.

02-07-2007, 02:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
gar4mayor Kickstand Operator Joined: May 2006 Bike: '02 dyna fxdx; was a black M50 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 252	the perils of powder coating in my ongoing war against chrome (and other surfaces that involve lots of cleaning), i have given serious thought to purchasing this: Craftsman 17288 Powder Coat System at Sears.com has anybody had any issues with this machinery? or with powder coating in general? any advice, suggestions, or other nuggets o' wisdom are appreciated. __________________ I have no idea what you're talking about.... ..so here's a bunny with a pancake on its head.

02-07-2007, 03:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
geoffsimpson M-J Member of the Month! Joined: Jun 2006 Bike: Grey, not silver, GREY 2006 Suzuki Boulevard M50 Location: Prince George BC Posts: 2,702	I'm with you, I'm a card carrying member of the no-chrome militia...not that I prefer plastic, but give me a nice crinkle coat in black powder any day. I'd be interested in giving that little tool a go...I have'st seen it here, but then again it's canada...We're just getting hyper-color t-shirts and the laser disc __________________ It's true that every time you hear a bell ring, an angel gets its wings... But what they don't tell you is that every time you hear a mouse trap "snap", and Angel gets set on fire... Grey * De-badged * V & H Straightshots w/ Thunder-Monster Baffles and Billet Hot-Tips * POWAH COMMANDAH!! * Kury Wide Style Levers * Kury Zombie Pegs (what's left of them) * Johnskit Forward Controls * Johnskit 2.5" Lowering Kit * Carbon Fibre-esque Tank Trim * Memphis Shades HellCat windshield * Passenger Backrest * Baddass MO-FO behind the bars * Thunder MFG Pro Series HyperCharger en-route

02-07-2007, 04:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
gar4mayor Kickstand Operator Joined: May 2006 Bike: '02 dyna fxdx; was a black M50 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 252	i'll probably go and buy it this friday. gotta have something to do on a rainy weekend with no football. i have the stock mirrors lying around and i'll coat one for a trial run. hopefully it will fit in an old toaster oven. pictures to follow. __________________ I have no idea what you're talking about.... ..so here's a bunny with a pancake on its head.

02-07-2007, 04:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
gar4mayor Kickstand Operator Joined: May 2006 Bike: '02 dyna fxdx; was a black M50 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 252	nah, i'll use it in an old toaster oven. saves the easy bake for pastries at my tea parties. __________________ I have no idea what you're talking about.... ..so here's a bunny with a pancake on its head.

02-09-2007, 09:32 AM	#12 (permalink)
gar4mayor Kickstand Operator Joined: May 2006 Bike: '02 dyna fxdx; was a black M50 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 252	Believe me, i've got my doubts about whether this is going to work. But i think it will be worth the expense if it does. I would much rather take it to a professional, but around here they are just asking for too much cash. What finallly convinced me to try this is this site: Riser's Powder Coating Trials the biggest thing i'll probably coat is the mirrors. __________________ I have no idea what you're talking about.... ..so here's a bunny with a pancake on its head.

02-07-2007, 03:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
peter-reebok Wants Better Weather Joined: Oct 2006 Bike: Suzuki M50 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 671	Have powder coated many parts over the years - even my front fence! Would choose this over paint any time. No experience with home kits - I generally get my local guy to do it for me. If I can give him a week, rather than wanting to come back next day - Much cheaper price!. I also stick to common use colours. Then he can do it with another customers work - and he saves on time. Years of wear in powder coating if done right.

02-07-2007, 04:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
Rockhead M-J.Com Master Poster Joined: Jan 2006 Bike: M50 Location: 1060 West Addison, Chicago Posts: 3,753	Use an Easy bake Oven........

02-07-2007, 05:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
Sullyboo Clunked into first gear Joined: Jun 2006 Bike: M50 Location: NJ Posts: 203	I am also not much of a chrome boy. I almost bought a Harley Street Bob that was almost all power coated. Sorry I did not mean to use the H word. This may just be the way to go.

02-08-2007, 03:09 PM	#10 (permalink)
profane Handlebar Consultant Joined: Jul 2006 Bike: '05 M50 Location: salisbury, nc Posts: 645	hmmm, I have my doubts about that thing. If you get it let us know if it was worth the money. Our powder coat system at work is huge. With about an hour to process one peice if you wait for it to return to the same spot in which it was hung at. Though it has a manual booth and 5 automatic booths. So it's hard for me to picture something like that. You wont be able to put into an oven. You will knock the powder off.... You will be better off having a lamp system that can run up to about 450. I've never seen a system run under 470 however.

02-09-2007, 10:46 AM	#13 (permalink)
Goldfinger Newbie Joined: Oct 2006 Bike: 06 M50 Black Location: Somerset, PA Posts: 8	Eastwood also has a powdercoating system. Actually, they have a couple of them. Eastwood Company: Auto Tools, Body Repair, Classic Car Restoration, House of Kolor Paint, Powder Coating I watched a program (it may have been My Classic Car) where the guy demonstrated using the lower priced system. He did an air cleaner lid. He made a little rack to suspend it from and after applying the powder he put the rack into an old oven that he had in the garage. It turned out really cool. I haven't personally tried it yet but have been thinking of getting one. I'm not familiar with the Craftsman one.

02-10-2007, 06:57 PM	#14 (permalink)
SACSQD Newbie Joined: Nov 2006 Bike: 06' M50 Location: Tampa, Fl. Posts: 18	My 2006 black M50 is having all the chrome that is not plastic powder coated black. The plastic looking chrome pieces are being painted black to match the powder coat. Pictures willl be posted by the end of the week. __________________ 2006 black powdercoated & debadged M50 3" drop, vance & hines SS w/ thunder monster baffles, kuryakyn grips, tank and fender bib, stiletto pegs, forward controls & low profile mirrors.

02-10-2007, 08:13 PM	#15 (permalink)
Don M50limited Third gear and cruising Joined: Oct 2006 Bike: 07 Suzuki M50 Limited, 01 yz250f Location: Fairfield, Ca Posts: 459	Tease....... Looking forward to seeing it......

02-11-2007, 06:08 PM	#17 (permalink)
gar4mayor Kickstand Operator Joined: May 2006 Bike: '02 dyna fxdx; was a black M50 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 252	well, everything turned out pretty good. the powder coating tool is pretty darn easy to use, very little mess, and the coating is solid. the pictures show one of the o.e.m. mirrors coated, and a throttle boss. also since i had the pair valve cover lying around, i tried to see if the "chromed plastic" would hold up during the curing phase. the answer would be no (see pic). Attached Thumbnails __________________ I have no idea what you're talking about.... ..so here's a bunny with a pancake on its head.

02-11-2007, 06:44 PM	#18 (permalink)
scrimmer Puddle Runner Joined: Nov 2006 Bike: '06 M50 Grey Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 394	Wow! The powdercoat actually makes me want to keep the mirrors now... looks great! __________________ *I used to be disgusted; now I try to be amused.*

02-12-2007, 05:09 AM	#19 (permalink)
profane Handlebar Consultant Joined: Jul 2006 Bike: '05 M50 Location: salisbury, nc Posts: 645	Looks nice. I looked at the eastwood site and watched one of their videos. Doesn't seem like a bad set up. Looks like your arent limited except for the size of what ever you are usuing to cure the powder. What all are you going to coat on your bike?

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02-12-2007, 11:01 AM	#20 (permalink)
gar4mayor Kickstand Operator Joined: May 2006 Bike: '02 dyna fxdx; was a black M50 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 252	well, my plan is to coat everything that's chrome, won't melt, and will fit in a standard size oven. i did just do the o.e.m. engine guards and they came out pretty nice. the powder that i use is the matte black one from harbor freight. __________________ I have no idea what you're talking about.... ..so here's a bunny with a pancake on its head.

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