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stp1971 · 08-19-2005, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by intimid8er

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So where are we at with the new dealer?

Well that is a good question. I just called them and they said that they called Suzuki and they are now saying that is normal with that bike. They said that the weight and the rake of that bike will cause it to do that. He said that the Wings are bad about that as well. Kinda funny that a major manufacturer will build a bike that does that.

So I guess now it will be something I am going to have to live with. Just it's amazing that it didn't do it before like this.

So they are adjusting the carbs and then they said to just come pick it up.

Oh well. You can change my title to "Shakes in the wrist"!!!!!

**intimid8er** · 08-19-2005, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by stp1971

So I guess now it will be something I am going to have to live with.

BULLSNOT!!!!

You shouldn't have to "live" with that. Especially on a new bike.

Either that....it's time to trade. (Sniff..sniff...I catch an aroma of cheese...!)

**drgibson** · 08-19-2005, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by intimid8er

BULLSNOT!!!!

You shouldn't have to "live" with that. Especially on a new bike.

Either that....it's time to trade. (Sniff..sniff...I catch an aroma of cheese...!)

Woof!

Not sure about the tailpipe thou?

stp1971 · 08-19-2005, 10:01 AM

I am at a loss,,, I am trying to get the number to customer service for Suzuki,,anyone have a corporate number?????

**intimid8er** · 08-19-2005, 10:02 AM

dr....

I'm with ya on that one. I got a thing for 2-into-1 systems because of the power they produce over a wide range. However, with the aftermarket support Yamaha has, that should be an easy fix.

If you look right behind the collector, it looks like a slip-on replacement will be an easy deal there.

If some of the sport-bike riders could weigh in here....Yamaha says it has their "sport-bike derived EXUP valve" in the exhaust to be able to boost the torque in the 1500-2500 range. That might be an obstacle for the aftermarket companies, I don't know.

One thing that draws me to that bike (like the M-50), is the impressive technical spec sheet. It is just jam packed full of hi-tech stuff. http//www.starmotorcycles.com
Another is the near 50/50 weight distribution. Early reports say it handles like a dream for a cruiser, and it runs like a scalded dog.

Oh...and the good news...Yamaha is going to underwrite a good portion of the insurance so Demo bikes will be on hand at all times! Awesome!

**drgibson** · 08-19-2005, 10:19 AM

STP,
That is nonsense normal riding conditions should not cause a bike to get what is known as the death wobble. Race bike get it under extreme acceleration or deceleration. This is in part due to torquing the bike out of alignment as well as changing aerodynamics. Check out this site there is a lot of good information here.

http://w6rec.com/duane/bmw/wobbles.htm

**intimid8er** · 08-19-2005, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drgibson

STP,
That is nonsense normal riding conditions should not cause a bike to get what is known as the death wobble. Race bike get it under extreme acceleration or deceleration. This is in part due to torquing the bike out of alignment as well as changing aerodynamics. Check out this site there is a lot of good information here.

http://w6rec.com/duane/bmw/wobbles.htm

Good read.

stp1971 · 08-19-2005, 11:38 AM

Well I was told by the dealer that the rear tire was wearing flat. He said that "Could" cause my problem,,, so hello,, I am going to spend ANOTHER $170.00 to try to fix this SH*T!!!!! If it still does it I have a Suzuki Case # now and I will be referencing this with them. He said that there is some damage to the bike and that I might have damaged something,,, ok,, what??? I told him if there is something wrong with it to let me know. That if I had damaged it tell me what it is and if I had caused the damage I would fix it. He said there is no way to tell unless he was to tear the front end apart.

So let's see if the new rear tire fixes this problem. If it doesn't then I will go from there. ERRrrrrrrr.......

**intimid8er** · 08-19-2005, 11:50 AM

Sean.....see post #122

stp1971 · 08-19-2005, 12:30 PM

Huh??????

**intimid8er** · 08-19-2005, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stp1971

Huh??????

Time to trade....(Cheese is in the maze!!)

stp1971 · 08-19-2005, 02:38 PM

Well what the dealer says now is he changed the air pressure and that ALL BIG CRUISERS will do that. He said he no longer feels the wobble and he only feels a slight shimmy at about 43 mph and then it goes away. He said the weight of the cruiser upon deceleration shifts forward and with the rake of the forks says that all the big cruisers tend to do that because of the stress of the weight on the forks due to the rake. He said come in tomorrow and ride it and see if it still does it and we can go form there. He said that the neck bearings are tight and nothing looks wrong. He said that the rear tire has some wear on it but he said he wouldn't replace it right now.

So I will see,,, as I said,, if no-one sees a post on here from me for more than a week,, then help my family with the lawsuit!!!!!

**drgibson** · 08-19-2005, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stp1971

Well what the dealer says now is he changed the air pressure and that ALL BIG CRUISERS will do that. He said he no longer feels the wobble and he only feels a slight shimmy at about 43 mph and then it goes away. He said the weight of the cruiser upon deceleration shifts forward and with the rake of the forks says that all the big cruisers tend to do that because of the stress of the weight on the forks due to the rake. He said come in tomorrow and ride it and see if it still does it and we can go form there. He said that the neck bearings are tight and nothing looks wrong. He said that the rear tire has some wear on it but he said he wouldn't replace it right now.

So I will see,,, as I said,, if no-one sees a post on here from me for more than a week,, then help my family with the lawsuit!!!!!

Yet more disinformation Mine has never done it, even on a bumpy road.

**intimid8er** · 08-19-2005, 03:15 PM

Horse%%%%% I say!!

I believe there is a conspiracy afoot.

**Trapper** · 08-19-2005, 03:44 PM

Sean, maybe you're just crazy and there is no such wobble. Don't squeeze the rabbit too tight.

blackie1491 · 08-19-2005, 05:16 PM

Sean is not crazy. I think doing without, may have caused him to be having a few problems. God in his wisdom has deemed that when we have a bad day, we just go on line and reading the ongoing saga of stp1971, all our troubles just fade away. It is getting to the point that I belive if he got lucky all his troubles would disappear.

stp1971 · 08-19-2005, 11:10 PM

Maybe the wobble is coming from the Blue Cooluns that are causing the frigid feeling to make me shake from cold chills and thus the vibration form my body is thowing the dynamics of the bike off and thus causing it to wobble. Or it could be that I am insisting on perfection in an obviously un-perfect world. If my luck ever changes,, watch out. I wouldn't know what to do. So I will be getting the bike back in about nine hours and I will ride it for a week or two and then if it still is a problem then I have a case number and will pursue it from there. I have now heard almost every excuse in the book.

IntruderCruiser · 08-20-2005, 12:24 AM

mine does not have that problem -- it has Bridgestones on it.

Gold Wings have the problem with the Dunlop Elites tires

Everett Keith · 08-22-2005, 03:11 PM

If weight shift was the problem than we would all crash during hard braking.

What a stupid statement

tlwisner · 08-22-2005, 03:18 PM

You need to stop doing all of the big wheelies on your LC1500 - that's rough on the front end. Yep, no more stoppies either - you big stunta! :0

Good luck getting this crap fixed.

08-19-2005, 10:01 AM	#124 (permalink)
stp1971 May 2007 Member of the month Joined: Mar 2005 Bike: 2004 Suzuki Intruder 1500LC / 2005 Suzuki DL650 V-Strom Location: Douglasville, Georgia Posts: 7,768	I am at a loss,,, I am trying to get the number to customer service for Suzuki,,anyone have a corporate number????? __________________ Biketoberfest 2006 flashback courtesy of Intimid8er: "Like you knew damn well you shouldn't eat something like that, but all be damned to hell, you were gonna eat it!" __________________

08-19-2005, 10:02 AM	#125 (permalink)
intimid8er It's A Conspiracy Joined: May 2005 Bike: '06 XB12X Location: 27 44'17.07" N 82 45'20.16" W Sharkbait Posts: 9,423	dr.... I'm with ya on that one. I got a thing for 2-into-1 systems because of the power they produce over a wide range. However, with the aftermarket support Yamaha has, that should be an easy fix. If you look right behind the collector, it looks like a slip-on replacement will be an easy deal there. If some of the sport-bike riders could weigh in here....Yamaha says it has their "sport-bike derived EXUP valve" in the exhaust to be able to boost the torque in the 1500-2500 range. That might be an obstacle for the aftermarket companies, I don't know. One thing that draws me to that bike (like the M-50), is the impressive technical spec sheet. It is just jam packed full of hi-tech stuff. http//www.starmotorcycles.com Another is the near 50/50 weight distribution. Early reports say it handles like a dream for a cruiser, and it runs like a scalded dog. Oh...and the good news...Yamaha is going to underwrite a good portion of the insurance so Demo bikes will be on hand at all times! Awesome! __________________ Song Pick of the Week 08/13 Alice In Chains - Grind <Insert nothing original in this space>

08-19-2005, 10:19 AM	#126 (permalink)
drgibson Thumper Mod Joined: Jul 2005 Bike: 2008 Kawasaki KLR 650 Location: Dallas, Texas Directly above the center of the earth. Posts: 10,417	STP, That is nonsense normal riding conditions should not cause a bike to get what is known as the death wobble. Race bike get it under extreme acceleration or deceleration. This is in part due to torquing the bike out of alignment as well as changing aerodynamics. Check out this site there is a lot of good information here. http://w6rec.com/duane/bmw/wobbles.htm __________________ Looking for better fuel economy? Consider a KLR... Better gas milage then a Prius or a Smart car, and it won't cost you an arm and a leg and your testosterone.

08-19-2005, 11:38 AM	#128 (permalink)
stp1971 May 2007 Member of the month Joined: Mar 2005 Bike: 2004 Suzuki Intruder 1500LC / 2005 Suzuki DL650 V-Strom Location: Douglasville, Georgia Posts: 7,768	Well I was told by the dealer that the rear tire was wearing flat. He said that "Could" cause my problem,,, so hello,, I am going to spend ANOTHER $170.00 to try to fix this SH*T!!!!! If it still does it I have a Suzuki Case # now and I will be referencing this with them. He said that there is some damage to the bike and that I might have damaged something,,, ok,, what??? I told him if there is something wrong with it to let me know. That if I had damaged it tell me what it is and if I had caused the damage I would fix it. He said there is no way to tell unless he was to tear the front end apart. So let's see if the new rear tire fixes this problem. If it doesn't then I will go from there. ERRrrrrrrr....... __________________ Biketoberfest 2006 flashback courtesy of Intimid8er: "Like you knew damn well you shouldn't eat something like that, but all be damned to hell, you were gonna eat it!" __________________

08-19-2005, 11:50 AM	#129 (permalink)
intimid8er It's A Conspiracy Joined: May 2005 Bike: '06 XB12X Location: 27 44'17.07" N 82 45'20.16" W Sharkbait Posts: 9,423	Sean.....see post #122 __________________ Song Pick of the Week 08/13 Alice In Chains - Grind <Insert nothing original in this space>

08-19-2005, 12:30 PM	#130 (permalink)
stp1971 May 2007 Member of the month Joined: Mar 2005 Bike: 2004 Suzuki Intruder 1500LC / 2005 Suzuki DL650 V-Strom Location: Douglasville, Georgia Posts: 7,768	Huh?????? __________________ Biketoberfest 2006 flashback courtesy of Intimid8er: "Like you knew damn well you shouldn't eat something like that, but all be damned to hell, you were gonna eat it!" __________________

08-19-2005, 02:38 PM	#132 (permalink)
stp1971 May 2007 Member of the month Joined: Mar 2005 Bike: 2004 Suzuki Intruder 1500LC / 2005 Suzuki DL650 V-Strom Location: Douglasville, Georgia Posts: 7,768	Well what the dealer says now is he changed the air pressure and that ALL BIG CRUISERS will do that. He said he no longer feels the wobble and he only feels a slight shimmy at about 43 mph and then it goes away. He said the weight of the cruiser upon deceleration shifts forward and with the rake of the forks says that all the big cruisers tend to do that because of the stress of the weight on the forks due to the rake. He said come in tomorrow and ride it and see if it still does it and we can go form there. He said that the neck bearings are tight and nothing looks wrong. He said that the rear tire has some wear on it but he said he wouldn't replace it right now. So I will see,,, as I said,, if no-one sees a post on here from me for more than a week,, then help my family with the lawsuit!!!!! __________________ Biketoberfest 2006 flashback courtesy of Intimid8er: "Like you knew damn well you shouldn't eat something like that, but all be damned to hell, you were gonna eat it!" __________________

08-19-2005, 03:15 PM	#134 (permalink)
intimid8er It's A Conspiracy Joined: May 2005 Bike: '06 XB12X Location: 27 44'17.07" N 82 45'20.16" W Sharkbait Posts: 9,423	Horse%%%%% I say!! I believe there is a conspiracy afoot. __________________ Song Pick of the Week 08/13 Alice In Chains - Grind <Insert nothing original in this space>

08-19-2005, 03:44 PM	#135 (permalink)
Trapper Dogs Best Friend(admin) Joined: Jul 2004 Bike: SOLD Location: Moncton NB Canada Posts: 8,910	Sean, maybe you're just crazy and there is no such wobble. Don't squeeze the rabbit too tight. __________________ PointFlushRetrieve.com - Bird Dog Blog Motorcycle-Journal.com Blog

08-19-2005, 05:16 PM	#136 (permalink)
blackie1491 I took the All Bran Challenge Joined: Jun 2005 Bike: C50SE Location: Aldergrove, B.C., Canada Posts: 7,186	Sean is not crazy. I think doing without, may have caused him to be having a few problems. God in his wisdom has deemed that when we have a bad day, we just go on line and reading the ongoing saga of stp1971, all our troubles just fade away. It is getting to the point that I belive if he got lucky all his troubles would disappear.

08-19-2005, 11:10 PM	#137 (permalink)
stp1971 May 2007 Member of the month Joined: Mar 2005 Bike: 2004 Suzuki Intruder 1500LC / 2005 Suzuki DL650 V-Strom Location: Douglasville, Georgia Posts: 7,768	Maybe the wobble is coming from the Blue Cooluns that are causing the frigid feeling to make me shake from cold chills and thus the vibration form my body is thowing the dynamics of the bike off and thus causing it to wobble. Or it could be that I am insisting on perfection in an obviously un-perfect world. If my luck ever changes,, watch out. I wouldn't know what to do. So I will be getting the bike back in about nine hours and I will ride it for a week or two and then if it still is a problem then I have a case number and will pursue it from there. I have now heard almost every excuse in the book. __________________ Biketoberfest 2006 flashback courtesy of Intimid8er: "Like you knew damn well you shouldn't eat something like that, but all be damned to hell, you were gonna eat it!" __________________

08-20-2005, 12:24 AM	#138 (permalink)
IntruderCruiser TurtleWax Taster Joined: Jun 2005 Bike: 2003 Intruder 1500 Posts: 585	mine does not have that problem -- it has Bridgestones on it. Gold Wings have the problem with the Dunlop Elites tires

08-22-2005, 03:11 PM	#139 (permalink)
Everett Keith Wants Better Weather Joined: Jul 2005 Bike: M-50 Posts: 673	If weight shift was the problem than we would all crash during hard braking. What a stupid statement __________________

08-22-2005, 03:18 PM	#140 (permalink)
tlwisner Throttle Jockey Joined: Apr 2004 Bike: '05 Boulevard C50 Location: Central Kentucky Posts: 3,208	You need to stop doing all of the big wheelies on your LC1500 - that's rough on the front end. Yep, no more stoppies either - you big stunta! :0 Good luck getting this crap fixed. __________________ Tim Wisner AMA, SCRC Happiness is something we create

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