Top speed of C90T

[Rickster]

Originally Posted by frostbitevinnie

Just the point I have been trying to make Rick. IMO, the only place you might need those speeds is on the track. Anywhere else is just reckless. I really don't care what my top end is. I got my pipes, fuel processor for the speeds below 80 and performance mpg where it is used and needed.

I get the impression the OP is just using 130mph as an arbitrary yard stick, and doesn't really want to ride that fast, but just figures if it has enough power to go 130, than it should have the "kick" he's looking for when he needs to pass someone at legal speeds.

At the same time I agree with you, and I feel he has his "yard stick" set a bit higher than it needs to be, but it's his "yard stick" to set.

Your skinny little a$$ on your C90 with 70hp, and my more manly figure on my Road King with 75hp would be about a dead heat in a race, and I haven't ever felt that I didn't have "enough" power., but it's his money to spend, and if he wants a bike that will do the 1/4 mile in under 12 seconds than that's what he should get, massive power when used the right way has the same ability of keeping you out of trouble as it does of getting you into trouble if you use it the wrong way, my Bandit is an 11 second bike and I have on occasion used it's very abundant power to my very good advantage.

[grandpatractor]

Originally Posted by Chappy

i want a fast bike with lots of BALLS!

My C109RT has BALLS-big ones!!!

[Chappy]

The 109RT It is!

[omegajim]

well, that's that then.

[grandpatractor]

Originally Posted by Chappy

The 109RT It is!

Originally Posted by omegajim

well, that's that then.

Glad I could help!!

[Davecm203]

Originally Posted by hammersfan

Also bearing in mind that the Suzuki speedos are known for being optimistic shall we say !

It is not just Suzuki. It is pretty much all motorcycles. Yamaha even had an issue with the tach on the R6 being greatly optimistic.

[Rickster]

Originally Posted by Davecm203

It is not just Suzuki. It is pretty much all motorcycles. Yamaha even had an issue with the tach on the R6 being greatly optimistic.

I think that's true of the big 4 from Japan, but Harley Triumph & BMW get it pretty close.

[Wild Willy]

Originally Posted by grandpatractor

My C109RT has BALLS-big ones!!!

The M109r is a lot faster than the C109. They made changes to the engine for the c109. They moved the torque curve down. My buddies C109 is a lot slower than my M109.

The C109 is more of a touring bike.

[grandpatractor]

Originally Posted by Wild Willy

The M109r is a lot faster than the C109. They made changes to the engine for the c109. They moved the torque curve down. My buddies C109 is a lot slower than my M109.

The C109 is more of a touring bike.

Horses are still pretty close. I think the weight of the "C" makes a bigger difference.

[Wild Willy]

Originally Posted by grandpatractor

Horses are still pretty close. I think the weight of the "C" makes a bigger difference.

Good point on the weight. I think they have different cams, also. They wanted more low end torque. To get that they sacrificed high end horsepower.

I have never seen any numbers, but you can really feel the difference.

[grandpatractor]

Originally Posted by Wild Willy

Good point on the weight. I think they have different cams, also. They wanted more low end torque. To get that they sacrificed high end horsepower.

I have never seen any numbers, but you can really feel the difference.

the numbers and weight that I have found in a magazine.
M109r 104.8 hp 97.2 trq 761 lbs
C109rt 97.7 hp 97.1 trq 878 lbs

[Wild Willy]

Originally Posted by grandpatractor

the numbers and weight that I have found in a magazine.
M109r 104.8 hp 97.2 trq 761 lbs
C109rt 97.7 hp 97.1 trq 878 lbs

Sounds reasonable.

[Chappy]

Thanks folks thats good info, sounds like the M109 is a lot quicker and powerful.

[goodtimesgoodrides]

GSXR1000 = more power than i'll ever need.. yet i'll use every bit of it when I need to

[Chappy]

Originally Posted by Rickster

I get the impression the OP is just using 130mph as an arbitrary yard stick, and doesn't really want to ride that fast, but just figures if it has enough power to go 130, than it should have the "kick" he's looking for when he needs to pass someone at legal speeds.

At the same time I agree with you, and I feel he has his "yard stick" set a bit higher than it needs to be, but it's his "yard stick" to set.

Your skinny little a$$ on your C90 with 70hp, and my more manly figure on my Road King with 75hp would be about a dead heat in a race, and I haven't ever felt that I didn't have "enough" power., but it's his money to spend, and if he wants a bike that will do the 1/4 mile in under 12 seconds than that's what he should get, massive power when used the right way has the same ability of keeping you out of trouble as it does of getting you into trouble if you use it the wrong way, my Bandit is an 11 second bike and I have on occasion used it's very abundant power to my very good advantage.

Thankyou rickster, you are correct, i am not wanting to ride around at 130mph, it's a yardstick figure. Here is my question again.
I would like the C90t, but!!!

If i was travelling at say 80 mph bucking a headwind going up a slight incline and i came upon a vehicle at 78mph, would i have enough headroom in the power range to romp on the throttle and pass him in say a 1/4 mile distance, or am i going to be slugged down by wind and bike weight, I dont want a racing bike, but i dont want a heafty looking loafer that cant pass in say Wyoming in march??
How is the Vulcan 1500 compared??
P;S THE C90T IS AWFULLY SEXY LOOKING!

[Rickster]

[quote=Chappy;536104]If i was travelling at say 80 mph bucking a headwind going up a slight incline and i came upon a vehicle at 78mph, would i have enough headroom in the power range to romp on the throttle and pass him in say a 1/4 mile distance, QUOTE]

I used to have an M50, and it could have easily done that, so I'm sure the C90 could, also my Road King is very close in power to a C90, and I make passes with it all the time that I would never attempt with my 300+hp pick up truck.

There are a lot of motorcycles faster than a C90, but it has more than enough power to keep you in front of 99% of the cages out there.

That being said, the 109"s are a lot faster, and I
'm sure that grandpatractor could smoke my RK in a straight line race (that's not a challenge J.D. ), but everyone doesn't need that kind of power. Some likegrandpatractor and myself do, that's why he has a 109, and I have a Bandit, and excuse me for saying so, but I think you fall into that group too, I don't think you would be happy with a C90, they are plenty fast, but I get the impression that you need more.

[grandpatractor]

This has kinda piqued my interest. I used to have a C50T. When I was riding solo it got me around fine. I'm about 275 lbs. When I had the wife on I found it was lacking in power and braking. I found if I was following a cager around 55 and passed them, it took me around 8 seconds to cross the dotted line and then back.
When I got the C109RT, I don't even hardly "feel" anyone behind me when I have the wife. (Sometimes I look to make sure she didn't fall off!!) It only takes around 4 seconds to get around a cager now. I live in farm country and like to open it up occasionally and the C109RT suits me perfectly.
Now you just have to figure out what suits you.
Rick may be right?

[Cirquerider]

Originally Posted by Chappy

Thankyou rickster, you are correct, i am not wanting to ride around at 130mph, it's a yardstick figure. Here is my question again.
I would like the C90t, but!!!

If i was travelling at say 80 mph bucking a headwind going up a slight incline and i came upon a vehicle at 78mph, would i have enough headroom in the power range to romp on the throttle and pass him in say a 1/4 mile distance, or am i going to be slugged down by wind and bike weight, I dont want a racing bike, but i dont want a heafty looking loafer that cant pass in say Wyoming in march??
How is the Vulcan 1500 compared??
P;S THE C90T IS AWFULLY SEXY LOOKING!

At 80 MPH, the C90 is doing 3000 RPMs in 5th and is just moving into the power band. Kick it down to 4th and you can be at 100 mph in about 5-7 seconds and leaving the cage in the dust. I run a Stage III setup, but you aren't running out of good acceleration until you get over 100 mph, then the drop off is pretty noticeable as wind resistance gets exponentially greater. I ride in mountains and can vouch that inclines are not a problem.

[frostbitevinnie]

Yep, my 90 has plenty of snort for passing at those speeds. Kick it into 4th and zoom away.

[Davecm203]

C90 Performance
Top Gear Roll-On, 60-80 MPH: 6.34 sec.Fuel Mileage: 33-41 mpg; 38 mpg avg.
Average Range: 142 miles
Quarter-Mile Acceleration: 14.61sec. @ 90.08 mph