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Old 02-05-2009, 12:21 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Back on topic, I'd be really surprised to see a 90 get to 150. They're probably reporting indicated speeds, which can be 10% or more optimistic.


Not indicated. I didn't look at the speedometer. My GPS has a feature that shows the maximum speed. I reset it before I opened her up, then checked it when I was done. Who wants to look at the gauges at that speed.


I am not sure of the 90 speed. Never rode one.

I bought the 109 because of the power. I have 2 V65 Magna's. After those all cruisers feel slow. The 109 was the closest to the power of the Magna.


The 109 is defiantly a cruiser. It has a stretched out position.
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Old 02-05-2009, 06:08 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Vinnie, what is the Bully Stage 3 and where did you get it? With you increases, i'm kind of interested in upgrading the c50.
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Old 02-05-2009, 06:35 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Vinnie, what is the Bully Stage 3 and where did you get it? With you increases, i'm kind of interested in upgrading the c50.
Vinnie is set up same as me, and the Stage III is pipes, open top K&N and a fuel processor. Because of its ease of use and 6-mode control the Bully controller is specifically what he is referring to. C50 Bully Package. Gary just started making that stuff available for the C50. Pretty sweet. mount it where you can see it and control it.
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Old 02-05-2009, 07:49 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Gentlemen, about my question????
You guys can meet and greet at the coffee shop, or in OFF TOPIC
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Old 02-05-2009, 08:20 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Old 02-05-2009, 08:58 PM   #26 (permalink)
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True, but then my that would interfere with my post whore thread jacking agenda.

Sorry pal but you have mentioned +100 speeds enough for my taste. I don't see the sense of it. I understand your desire to have acceptable passing speed but you still gotta ride as if invisible. You are safer out of traffic but with increasing speed your personal safety decreases considerably. The 90 has such power right out of the box. It won't do 130, it's a cruiser designed for, well cruising. Yeah, I can and have gone from 70 to 100 in 4th pretty darn quick but that does not always solve the problem. Ride fast enough and all you will do is catch up with the next idiot pack then you gotta get through them before the idiot pack in your rear catches up.

For me power is only part of the answer. The rest is planning the next move, always having an escape. Riding with you head is a lot safer than dependence upon power. Personally I do my very best to keep out of traffic. If that means pulling ahead and staying in front of the pack I do that. Sometimes I just simply slow down, get in a safe lane and let them pass or just pull off and chill. Slam a few beers before I make my way through the jungle again.

I have given you the dyno results for the setup on my bike. Not sure what more you want. As far as going "off topic" my old pal ShonR asked a simple question that deals with the fuel processor and air filter I have set up on my bike. This specifically addresses power issues for a lot of bikes. I was more than glad to give him the link. Honestly, if you want exceptional power then you probably would need to go with a sport bike. I have ridden Clint's bandit and it will smoke my bike and any other cruiser out there. Not comfortably enough for my taste but she is quick.

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Old 02-05-2009, 10:02 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Ha ha ha ha ha! Thats what i love about you fellows, you have some grit, i'd say you are brothers of mine, i love you all, welcome!
Thankyou frostbite, you are a very knowlegable motorcyclist, and thankyou for your info, i think you are right i may look at at a sport bike, but god man, the C90t looks comfy, but i like a little power too! ???
I'm scared of the lean over,, [meaning handlebars] i'm a middle aged man with weak elbows and shoulders, mastertech auto tech, all worn out! What do you fellow's think, what do i need ???? I have sat on kawaski sport bike and many others , they seem to high for me, do you think i'm too old ? 42?? 180Lbs 5ft 8
I'm sorry i did not mention all the other riding ingredients, such as passing, and holding back, i was very naive in my question, sorry about that, but riding safe was part of my question, HOW FAST DOES A c90 GO??
Will the F------ go a 130mph???????????????????????????????????
Thats all i wanna know baby?

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Old 02-05-2009, 11:31 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I am 40, a "disabled" vet and only ride sportbikes. There are some bikes out there that are more comfortable than my Gixxer and plenty fast. My favorite the Honda SuperHawk (mine was stolen last year and if you want one it will have to be used), a Suzuki Bandit, Yamaha FZR, Honda VFR, Kawasaki ZZR,...the list goes on.

But, 130 on the street is really not a good idea. If you like fast, get a sporty bike and do some track days.
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Old 02-05-2009, 11:34 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I am 40, a "disabled" vet and only ride sportbikes. There are some bikes out there that are more comfortable than my Gixxer and plenty fast. My favorite the Honda SuperHawk (mine was stolen last year and if you want one it will have to be used), a Suzuki Bandit, Yamaha FZR, Honda VFR, Kawasaki ZZR,...the list goes on.

But, 130 on the street is really not a good idea. If you like fast, get a sporty bike and do some track days.
Thanks dave , sounds good, i agree 130 not good, dont want that, just great overtaking speed, lots of BALLS!
Did you get the bike back??????????
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Old 02-05-2009, 11:44 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I rode the M109 for two years, that bike is one of the fastest bikes I've ever ridden. I had it up to 110 and it still wanted to go faster. A great bike to play with on the freways
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Old 02-06-2009, 01:34 AM   #31 (permalink)
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The list of cruiser style bikes that are capable of reaching the 130 mph mark would include the Honda 1800 VTX, the Suzuki 109, the Kawasaki V2K, the Triumph Rocket 3, the Harley V-Rod, and any of the 113 ci Yamaha's, the C90 would need a lot of engine work to go that fast.

Cruisers are big heavy bikes with a lot of wind resistance, and they need a lot of HP (at least 100) to get them up to that kind of speed, for me personally if I am pushing the kind of headwinds that are making my Road King (75 HP, 80 ft lb Tq) struggle, I just slow down because those kind of winds can make a motorcycle do funny things, things that are uncomfortable at best, and deadly at worst.
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Old 02-06-2009, 02:30 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I don't think I've been in head winds that strong to make the bike work. But one day I was on the way to Reno NV. I was about twenty miles south of Sacramrnto CA, the side winds were so strong that I was doing 45 and scard. The bike was laying over, I could not hold it verticle, I had to lay it into the wind. I got off the freeway and started for home, I was not doing anymore of this. Now I'm on the other side of the freeway going where I came from. It lasted about ten more minutes and I was out of it. The wind is not our friend.
The bike I was riding was a C50.

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Old 02-06-2009, 11:07 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Try the C109r or rt. I went up form the C50 last Summer and although my bike weight increased 250lb the power is in my opinion unbeatable.

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Some additional info on the C109RT gleaned from last weeks dyno runs. Ever want to know where the C109R tops out in each gear and whether it actually has the power hit the rev limiter in 5th gear??? I have your answers: 3rd gear hits the 6,850rpm rev limiter at 99.69mph. 4th gear tops out at 124.69, while 5th gear DOES hit the rev limiter decisively at 150.64mph!!! These are not what your speedometer may read but actual speeds (on a Dyno). The C109R has the power to push these speeds without hesitation. No, this was not the stock setup but what I am noting as Stage 3 (RoadBurner 2:1 Pipes, Stock intake box, no Air Filter and no chrome air filter cover). This is as close as I can get right now to what a properly designed K&N setup should be. We are working on that.....trust me!
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Thanks dave , sounds good, i agree 130 not good, dont want that, just great overtaking speed, lots of BALLS!
Did you get the bike back??????????
How are you my freind??? Hope you are well and able to ride my freind>
They eventualy found it at a crack house. It looked like they were practicing doing stunts on it. The insurance company offered to sell it back to me for $1,500 (they settled for $8,500). I declined as it was in pretty bad shape. They even duct taped it up and wrecked it some more. I still have my Gixxer, so I have not been in a hurry to find a replacement.
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Good man, you did the right thing there, not worth the hasstle.
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Old 02-07-2009, 04:41 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I think you can realistically expect to get 120 MPH maybe 125.I have only had mine up to 112 MPH (180KPH) but we have this new law in Ontario where they can and do seize your vehicle if caught going 50 kph over the speed limit and an automatic licence suspension, so I am hesitant to go much more than 140 KPH which I cruise at on a regular basis and no one seems to mind ! (touch wood) Also bearing in mind that the Suzuki speedos are known for being optimistic shall we say !
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I think he was asking for honest GPS speed, not the made up numbers that Suzuki speedos are known for, so the realistic numbers you are referring to need to have 10% subtracted from them. Stock C90's are not capable of going 125mph, they just don't have enough power, 112mph, to 115mph is the best they will do, and that's plenty fast enough.
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Stock C90's are not capable of going 125mph, they just don't have enough power, 112mph, to 115mph is the best they will do, and that's plenty fast enough.
Just the point I have been trying to make Rick. IMO, the only place you might need those speeds is on the track. Anywhere else is just reckless. I really don't care what my top end is. I got my pipes, fuel processor for the speeds below 80 and performance mpg where it is used and needed.
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Just the point I have been trying to make Rick. IMO, the only place you might need those speeds is on the track. Anywhere else is just reckless. I really don't care what my top end is. I got my pipes, fuel processor for the speeds below 80 and performance mpg where it is used and needed.
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