What's the fastest/most powerful cruiser? - Motorcycle-Journal Forums

squale · 08-03-2008, 03:26 PM

Just wondering if there are any cruisers that can keep up with a streetbike such as a Yamaha R1, etc.? Maybe the new m109? or other brands?

diamond_jim · 08-03-2008, 03:34 PM

You mean straight speed? I hope not. Those streetbikes wouldn't be worth the money since that's what they're designed to do.

squale · 08-03-2008, 03:36 PM

well fastest accelerating cruiser?

burnchassis · 08-03-2008, 03:44 PM

2009 Yamaha VMAX? 285 hp.
yea sorry Imeant 185 hp but it says actually 197 hp
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/upto...otorcycle.html
$17,500

squale · 08-03-2008, 03:46 PM

how could it possibly have 285 HP with only a 1679cc engine? the m109 with a 1750cc engine doesn't put out more than around 110hp..

diamond_jim · 08-03-2008, 03:46 PM

For years I was single. During this time, my buddy tried to have this same discussion with me so many times. He rides streetbikes. I ride cruisers. I always got the babes and the dates. This fact would bother him so to make himself feel better he'd frequently brag about how his bike was faster. So one day he bragged and I had had enough. I told him acceleration was great, but that I'd rather have the babe on the back of my bike than have her rapidly disappearing in my mirrors. He never mentioned it again.

If I name a streetbike that a cruiser will beat, the usual response from streetbikers is "well, that's not a real streetbike". It's pointless.

Copronymous · 08-03-2008, 04:07 PM

Yeah, VMax, M109R, Warrior, and V Rod/Street Rod are probably the tops amongst cruisers. These might sort of keep up, but a well built literbike, or for god's sake a Hayabusa, will just outrun them.

But they're built for very different uses than sportbikes. Cruisers typically have more torque, while sporties typically have more horsepower.

nicocorea · 08-03-2008, 04:10 PM

What the eff does this have to do with the VZ800?

**Clint** · 08-03-2008, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squale

how could it possibly have 285 HP with only a 1679cc engine? the m109 with a 1750cc engine doesn't put out more than around 110hp..

It doesn't. I think he meant 185.

Quote:

Originally Posted by diamond_jim

...streetbikes...... streetbike ... streetbikers...streetbike....

I assume you mean "sportbike"? Where do you ride yours if not on the street?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Copronymous

Cruisers typically have more torque, while sporties typically have more horsepower.

I don't think that's true even in a typical case. Most 600 sportbikes have 35-45 lbs-ft. So does an 800 cruiser. Most literbikes have 70-100 lbs-ft. So do the heavy cruisers (if they're lucky).

EastnMike · 08-03-2008, 04:54 PM

As far as blatant speed and torque, the Boss Hoss 502 with 502 HP and 567 ft/lb of torque. Probably takes the crown here. But they were discontinued from production in 2007 because of EPA regulations. Some Boss Hoss dealers offer a special build for the big-block bikes, and will install a 606ci all aluminum Donovan engine. Many of these will easily reach over 700HP all naturally-aspirated. Then you can start building HP with nitrous, etc. But for production bikes, the factory built 502 has the most "punch" as far as I know. But...mine has only 385HP, as it is a smallblock V8 engine, but it has enough for me (most of the time

)
Mike

diamond_jim · 08-03-2008, 05:46 PM

I prefer sportbike myself but was just using Squale's terminology to help explain it to him.

diamond_jim · 08-03-2008, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EastnMike

As far as blatant speed and torque, the Boss Hoss 502 with 502 HP and 567 ft/lb of torque. Probably takes the crown here. But they were discontinued from production in 2007 because of EPA regulations. Some Boss Hoss dealers offer a special build for the big-block bikes, and will install a 606ci all aluminum Donovan engine. Many of these will easily reach over 700HP all naturally-aspirated. Then you can start building HP with nitrous, etc. But for production bikes, the factory built 502 has the most "punch" as far as I know. But...mine has only 385HP, as it is a smallblock V8 engine, but it has enough for me (most of the time

)
Mike

fake · 08-03-2008, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Copronymous

Yeah, VMax, M109R, Warrior, and V Rod/Street Rod are probably the tops amongst cruisers. These might sort of keep up, but a well built literbike, or for god's sake a Hayabusa, will just outrun them.

But they're built for very different uses than sportbikes. Cruisers typically have more torque, while sporties typically have more horsepower.

You forgot to mention the new Raider

07M50zAllDaWay · 08-03-2008, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squale

Just wondering if there are any cruisers that can keep up with a streetbike such as a Yamaha R1, etc.? Maybe the new m109? or other brands?

Maybe the Triumph Rocket3 could hang with one for a little while, though I hope for the riders sake it's on a straight road. I think stock 0-60 in just under 3 sec, and 0-100 in just over 7sec. Damn things a tank tho.

Fact is, it really doesn't matter if it could accelerate faster, or as fast, or come close to the R1's top end speed. Even if it could, it could never be driven like the nimble R1.

EastnMike · 08-04-2008, 07:31 AM

Diamond Jim...for you:

Mike

diamond_jim · 08-04-2008, 07:41 AM

Wow, that's one heck of a bike! Nice cutie on it too!

johbren · 08-04-2008, 08:09 PM

looks like it needs a new rear tire.

omegajim · 08-04-2008, 09:32 PM

and they wonder why people hate us "capitalistic pigs."

why, we need v-8 engines to drive our bikes, but of course.

seriously, it's nice machine, but it would be too big for me to feel safe driving it.

As if that isn't the biggest oxymoron you've ever heard (safe on a bike, laughable, ain't it?)

oh, and, welcome aboard.

**inspiron** · 08-05-2008, 03:56 AM

FWIW, the Triumph Rocket is a 3-cylinder, 2.3 liter bike. It is using the same pistons as the Dodge Viper - it just has 3 of them instead of 8...

EastnMike · 08-05-2008, 08:10 AM

The Viper has 10 of those size pistons..

At least mine does. (Yes, I am a horsepower junkie...)

Mike

08-03-2008, 03:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
squale Seat Tester Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 99	What's the fastest/most powerful cruiser? Just wondering if there are any cruisers that can keep up with a streetbike such as a Yamaha R1, etc.? Maybe the new m109? or other brands?

08-03-2008, 03:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
diamond_jim Refrigerator Magnet Test Engineer Joined: Oct 2007 Bike: S4 Scatcat Location: North Alabama Posts: 3,622	You mean straight speed? I hope not. Those streetbikes wouldn't be worth the money since that's what they're designed to do. __________________ M50 tutorials, tips and how-to links DJ's new project bike

08-03-2008, 03:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
burnchassis Clunked into first gear Joined: Jun 2008 Bike: 2005 M50 PCIII K&N Thunder intake kit,and Drag pipes wrapped Location: Cincinnati,Ohio Posts: 219	2009 Yamaha VMAX? 285 hp. yea sorry Imeant 185 hp but it says actually 197 hp http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/upto...otorcycle.html $17,500 Last edited by burnchassis; 08-03-2008 at 05:31 PM.

08-03-2008, 03:46 PM	#6 (permalink)
diamond_jim Refrigerator Magnet Test Engineer Joined: Oct 2007 Bike: S4 Scatcat Location: North Alabama Posts: 3,622	For years I was single. During this time, my buddy tried to have this same discussion with me so many times. He rides streetbikes. I ride cruisers. I always got the babes and the dates. This fact would bother him so to make himself feel better he'd frequently brag about how his bike was faster. So one day he bragged and I had had enough. I told him acceleration was great, but that I'd rather have the babe on the back of my bike than have her rapidly disappearing in my mirrors. He never mentioned it again. If I name a streetbike that a cruiser will beat, the usual response from streetbikers is "well, that's not a real streetbike". It's pointless. __________________ M50 tutorials, tips and how-to links DJ's new project bike

08-03-2008, 04:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
Copronymous Third gear and cruising Joined: Jul 2007 Bike: 2007 M50 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 457	Yeah, VMax, M109R, Warrior, and V Rod/Street Rod are probably the tops amongst cruisers. These might sort of keep up, but a well built literbike, or for god's sake a Hayabusa, will just outrun them. But they're built for very different uses than sportbikes. Cruisers typically have more torque, while sporties typically have more horsepower. __________________ "He's down there right now, looking up at us." M50 Service Manual \|\| He was here just a minute ago. \|\| Don't click here (and especially HERE)

08-03-2008, 03:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
squale Seat Tester Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 99	well fastest accelerating cruiser?

08-03-2008, 03:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
squale Seat Tester Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 99	how could it possibly have 285 HP with only a 1679cc engine? the m109 with a 1750cc engine doesn't put out more than around 110hp..

08-03-2008, 04:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
nicocorea Found second gear by accident Joined: Apr 2008 Bike: 2008 VZ800/Z Black Location: Albuquerque NM Posts: 320	What the eff does this have to do with the VZ800?

08-03-2008, 04:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
EastnMike Newbie Joined: Jul 2006 Bike: 2002 385HP Boss Hoss V8 Posts: 15	As far as blatant speed and torque, the Boss Hoss 502 with 502 HP and 567 ft/lb of torque. Probably takes the crown here. But they were discontinued from production in 2007 because of EPA regulations. Some Boss Hoss dealers offer a special build for the big-block bikes, and will install a 606ci all aluminum Donovan engine. Many of these will easily reach over 700HP all naturally-aspirated. Then you can start building HP with nitrous, etc. But for production bikes, the factory built 502 has the most "punch" as far as I know. But...mine has only 385HP, as it is a smallblock V8 engine, but it has enough for me (most of the time ) Mike

08-03-2008, 05:46 PM	#11 (permalink)
diamond_jim Refrigerator Magnet Test Engineer Joined: Oct 2007 Bike: S4 Scatcat Location: North Alabama Posts: 3,622	I prefer sportbike myself but was just using Squale's terminology to help explain it to him. __________________ M50 tutorials, tips and how-to links DJ's new project bike

08-04-2008, 07:31 AM	#15 (permalink)
EastnMike Newbie Joined: Jul 2006 Bike: 2002 385HP Boss Hoss V8 Posts: 15	Diamond Jim...for you: Mike

08-04-2008, 07:41 AM	#16 (permalink)
diamond_jim Refrigerator Magnet Test Engineer Joined: Oct 2007 Bike: S4 Scatcat Location: North Alabama Posts: 3,622	Wow, that's one heck of a bike! Nice cutie on it too! __________________ M50 tutorials, tips and how-to links DJ's new project bike

08-04-2008, 08:09 PM	#17 (permalink)
johbren Ditch Magnet Joined: Jun 2007 Bike: 2007 red and black c50 Location: lewisburg ohio Posts: 182	looks like it needs a new rear tire.

08-04-2008, 09:32 PM	#18 (permalink)
omegajim M-J.Com Lifetime Achievement Award Joined: Jan 2007 Bike: 1980 Yamaha XS850 Location: Washington County, WI Posts: 6,544	and they wonder why people hate us "capitalistic pigs." why, we need v-8 engines to drive our bikes, but of course. seriously, it's nice machine, but it would be too big for me to feel safe driving it. As if that isn't the biggest oxymoron you've ever heard (safe on a bike, laughable, ain't it?) oh, and, welcome aboard. __________________ "FREE TIBET!"* With purchase of one Tibet of equal or greater value.

08-05-2008, 03:56 AM	#19 (permalink)
inspiron Muscle Biker Joined: Jul 2004 Bike: Blue Suzuki GSX 1400 (2003) Location: Canton Basel-Land, Switzerland (47.4493, 7.76536) Posts: 12,073	FWIW, the Triumph Rocket is a 3-cylinder, 2.3 liter bike. It is using the same pistons as the Dodge Viper - it just has 3 of them instead of 8... __________________ There is nothing worse than aggressive stupidity. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe blog: gsx1400

08-05-2008, 08:10 AM	#20 (permalink)
EastnMike Newbie Joined: Jul 2006 Bike: 2002 385HP Boss Hoss V8 Posts: 15	The Viper has 10 of those size pistons.. At least mine does. (Yes, I am a horsepower junkie...) Mike

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