cruiser magic pipes?

[dbrown]

Any experience with "Cruiser Magic" exhast pipes?

[kyro2000]

I haven't heard of them. Do you have a link to any websites for them?

[dbrown]

cruisermagic.com

[wildwolf]

I have a set of Cruiser Magic Nasty Twins on my bike...absolutely love them.

[Sgt Mike]

The web site is; Cruiser Magic 2

[dbrown]

did you put in the jet kit? I was concerned when I saw there wasn't a crossover like the stock pipes

[wildwolf]

The original posted website will take you to the CM2 site.

I haven't put in a jet kit. I'm still deciding whether I want to go with a Factory Pro stage 3 or the CM2 stage 2. They appear to be similar, but CM2 tosses in the K&N filters.Through membership at another board, I can get a 15% discount on the Factory Pro kit though.

I have never had the bike with a cross over pipe. The pipes on the bike when I purchased it were Cobra slashcut slip-ons. Sounded decent, but after I rode for a couple years one pipe had a weld bust inside the pipe and it had a horrible rattle.

Needed another set for an upcoming trip. Liked the looks of the CM2 Nasty Twins, and they were cheaper than any others I found for a new set that wasn't home made.

I wouldn't be concerned about the lack of the cross over pipe like the stocks, it'll be minimal differences with this bike and likely any gains are lost in the poorly designed stock pipes. Thus, with after market pipes that don't have a crossover, you're likely to gain back that and a little extra.

[Sgt Mike]

I sent Cruiser Magic an email requesting availablity and price. As of now they do not make pipes for a C50.

[wildwolf]

AFAIK, they only make them for the VS800 & V1400 styles...not the C50 or M50. The owner of CM2, Jim, rides a VS800.

[bon8017]

Hey Guys,

I was checking out this post and I was thinking of getting CM2 Drag Pipes for my S50. Will it harm the bike if I don't get the Jet Kit?

[wildwolf]

Jim (owner of CM2) states you should rejet. Then again, he sells a jet kit for the bike 'made for owners of CM2 pipes'....so he (to me) has a conflict of interest in giving that opinion.

Many folks at IA have repiped, but not rejetted the 800. I've had my new pipes on since April 2006 with no known ill-effects yet. I want the jet kit merely for more torque/hp because I like to go to the dragstrip now and want to really see if rejetting helps at all or not.

[bon8017]

Awesome! Thanks Wildwolf

[Colorado Cajun]

Originally Posted by bon8017

Hey Guys,

I was checking out this post and I was thinking of getting CM2 Drag Pipes for my S50. Will it harm the bike if I don't get the Jet Kit?

If you don't find a definite answer to that question from someone who has experience with that bike and those pipes, this is what I would suggest.

Put new spark plugs in you bike when you put the pipes on. After about 500 miles, check your plugs and see if you are running too lean. From everything I have read so far, I'd say you will need to rejet. Just my .02 cents.

[wildwolf]

Originally Posted by Colorado Cajun

If you don't find a definite answer to that question from someone who has experience with that bike and those pipes, this is what I would suggest.

Put new spark plugs in you bike when you put the pipes on. After about 500 miles, check your plugs and see if you are running too lean. From everything I have read so far, I'd say you will need to rejet. Just my .02 cents.

I have that bike, I have those pipes, and I had already answered his question. The designer of the pipes states you will need to, but I believe this is because he also sells the rejet kits and also wants your business for that. Several intruder riders on another popular intruder website have not rejetted after using these pipes and have had no ill-effects from not rejetting.

For what it's worth, I had also checked new plugs after pipes being on and it doesn't take 500 miles to check plugs. You just need to ride it hard through the first few gears (say, WOT) and pull in clutch as you hit the kill switch, coast to a stop and check the plugs.

My plugs have always looked good. Here's a good comparitive chart/webpage:
Spark Plugs

[leo]

hello all

[wildwolf]

Hi Leo. Welcome to the board.

[deblack]

anytime you increase air flow in or out of your engine you have to rejet or add a fuel processor . i have a 2005 suzuki c50 with a set of Hard krome double ds. { Strippers}. then i added a cobra fi2000r fuel processor plus a k&n filter. bike runs great and loud. dwight

[POE-BOY SAMICH]

Originally Posted by deblack

anytime you increase air flow in or out of your engine you have to rejet or add a fuel processor .

I'm from the same school of thought.

It's hard to argue against Wildwolf's results because he's got the set-up with the exact pipes in question. However, I would like to point out that, when done correctly, rejetting is not going to "hurt" a bike with aftermarket pipes. So...just do it.

I say you may as well add the processor or rejet AND upgrade your air filter/intake if your switching to aftermarket pipes. Get the whole shebang out of your mod.

[wildwolf]

Originally Posted by POE-BOY SAMICH

I'm from the same school of thought.

It's hard to argue against Wildwolf's results because he's got the set-up with the exact pipes in question. However, I would like to point out that, when done correctly, rejetting is not going to "hurt" a bike with aftermarket pipes. So...just do it.

I say you may as well add the processor or rejet AND upgrade your air filter/intake if your switching to aftermarket pipes. Get the whole shebang out of your mod.

I had an air/fuel mix test on the bike on a dyno. After myself fiddlin' with the air/fuel idle mix screw, my idle was WAY rich (and I mean WAY). However, when at cruising speeds and even WOT on the dyno, the bike was running just fine with the Cruiser Magic 2 Nasty Twin pipes as far as air/fuel mix goes (rich/lean check).

There is absolutely NO NEED TO REJET the S50/VS800 bike with JUST adding pipes. However, if you also modify the bike to have more air (cut airboxes, add K&N filters, etc.) you WILL need to rejet to get more fuel after getting more air into the carbs.

Any more questions?