Volusia 800 Vs Vulcan 800 Which One I Should Buy? - Motorcycle-Journal Forums

gandalf · 01-19-2007, 01:40 PM

HI im a newbie, im from Mexico city,i love motorcycles, i wan to buy a new ride, now i own a honda rebel 250, its very small for me, im 1.90mts tall. and i feel no power on it, and i want something bigger

here in Mexico the volusia is the same than the boulevard m50 in USA

here in Mexico motrcycles are VERY expensive, so if im gone to spend about 15,000.00 usdlls. for a new one, i want the best i can find

i wish i coul afford a M109 or a vulcan 900 but i cant

i like bouth bikes but i dont know too much about them

your help and any sugestion or comments will be very apreciated

thank you for you knowledge and your time

pd. im sorry for my bad english

DaveMc · 01-22-2007, 09:48 PM

For $15,000 US dollars you should be able to buy an M109R and have change left over, even at inflated prices. Am I missing something? They are $12,599 dealer's / MSRP here. The M50 lists for $6899.00 US dollars.

The M50 is a great bike; can't speak about the Vulcan, but I suspect it is a fine machine as well.

hammersfan · 01-22-2007, 09:53 PM

They are both good bikes.One advantage the Suzuki has over the Vulcan 800 is that it is shaft driven as opposed to the vulcan which is chain driven. Other than that I think its more of a personal taste decision.the Suzuki Boulevard 800's were considered to be the leaders in the middle weight cruiser category but now that Kawi has the 900 and Yamaha the 1300 but whatever you choose you can't really go wrong imho.

DrBob · 01-22-2007, 10:26 PM

Really, both are excellent bikes, so you can’t go wrong with either. Just choose the one that you like the style of better.

As for why they are so expensive in Mexico, it’s because it’s, well, Mexico, and the government taxes and tariffs the hell out of everything. I rode my bike to Mexico one time with some friends, and we were charged $300 each for a temporary import license just to ride in Mexico for one friggin day.

An M109 lists for $160,000 Mexican plus assembly, which is roughly $15,300 USD, already much higher than in the USA. Add to that a 20% import tariff because the bike was not built in Mexico or a NAFTA country, so you are up to $18,360. Now add in the 15% national Value Added Tax charged on all vehicles (and that is 15% of the vehicle + 15% of the tariff you already paid), and you are up to $21,114.00 USD. Add to that any state taxes, plus registration fees, and you are up near $23,000.00 before you get the thing out the door.

So any motorcycle in Mexico costs about 45% more than up here. No wonder they want to move here.

geoffsimpson · 01-23-2007, 11:27 AM

Pick which ever one is more your style, they're both good.

gandalf · 01-26-2007, 05:09 PM

thank you very much for your responses

and it right in Mexico the taxes are real hig thats why you end paying more than states

i think i will buy the suzuki it fits my eye

again thank you

Sgt Mike · 01-26-2007, 08:13 PM

Great choice. You're gonna love that bike.

geoffsimpson · 01-26-2007, 09:08 PM

Ditto, I'd have made fun of you for the other one...it was just a test. Besides, I hear the Yamaha only comes in Pink

NateHarris · 01-27-2007, 09:23 PM

Puhleeze, $300 to ride around Mexico? What am I missing here? That is just retarded.

wildwolf · 02-01-2007, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gandalf

here in Mexico the volusia is the same than the boulevard m50 in USA

I think the Volusia is the same as the C50, not the M50. The Maurader is the older sibling of the M50 I believe.

hammersfan · 02-07-2007, 09:28 AM

Wildwolf is correct in North America but its possibly different in Mexico. I know in England the M50 is called the Intruder 800. Go figure !

POE-BOY SAMICH · 02-07-2007, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gandalf

thank you very much for your responses

and it right in Mexico the taxes are real hig thats why you end paying more than states

i think i will buy the suzuki it fits my eye

again thank you

Congrats!
You've picked a fine scoot. No matter whether it's an M50 or a C50.

Now, judging by the info DrBob provided re: the cost of motorcycles in Mexico, I would hate to think how much it will cost you to add some bling!

hutz · 02-07-2007, 05:55 PM

owned them both and the suzuki wins hands down.
Fuel injection over carburation any day.

Jackalope · 02-26-2007, 10:25 PM

What does it take for a Mexican to visit America...legally, I mean?

Come over for a week's vacation. Buy the bike at American prices, ride it enough to classify it as a used vehicle, and then take it back to Mexico and pay much lower tariff's.

What's wrong with this plan?

01-19-2007, 01:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
gandalf Newbie Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3	Volusia 800 Vs Vulcan 800 Which One I Should Buy? HI im a newbie, im from Mexico city,i love motorcycles, i wan to buy a new ride, now i own a honda rebel 250, its very small for me, im 1.90mts tall. and i feel no power on it, and i want something bigger here in Mexico the volusia is the same than the boulevard m50 in USA here in Mexico motrcycles are VERY expensive, so if im gone to spend about 15,000.00 usdlls. for a new one, i want the best i can find i wish i coul afford a M109 or a vulcan 900 but i cant i like bouth bikes but i dont know too much about them your help and any sugestion or comments will be very apreciated thank you for you knowledge and your time pd. im sorry for my bad english Last edited by gandalf; 01-19-2007 at 02:42 PM.

01-22-2007, 09:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
hammersfan U.B's LoveChild Joined: Jan 2006 Bike: 2008 C90 SE Location: Ajax ,Ontario ,Canada Posts: 1,226	They are both good bikes.One advantage the Suzuki has over the Vulcan 800 is that it is shaft driven as opposed to the vulcan which is chain driven. Other than that I think its more of a personal taste decision.the Suzuki Boulevard 800's were considered to be the leaders in the middle weight cruiser category but now that Kawi has the 900 and Yamaha the 1300 but whatever you choose you can't really go wrong imho. __________________ Ride Safe Hammersfan

01-22-2007, 10:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
DrBob In The Zone Joined: May 2004 Bike: several Location: Decatur, GA Posts: 2,751	Really, both are excellent bikes, so you can’t go wrong with either. Just choose the one that you like the style of better. As for why they are so expensive in Mexico, it’s because it’s, well, Mexico, and the government taxes and tariffs the hell out of everything. I rode my bike to Mexico one time with some friends, and we were charged $300 each for a temporary import license just to ride in Mexico for one friggin day. An M109 lists for $160,000 Mexican plus assembly, which is roughly $15,300 USD, already much higher than in the USA. Add to that a 20% import tariff because the bike was not built in Mexico or a NAFTA country, so you are up to $18,360. Now add in the 15% national Value Added Tax charged on all vehicles (and that is 15% of the vehicle + 15% of the tariff you already paid), and you are up to $21,114.00 USD. Add to that any state taxes, plus registration fees, and you are up near $23,000.00 before you get the thing out the door. So any motorcycle in Mexico costs about 45% more than up here. No wonder they want to move here. __________________ Dream like you'll live forever, live like you'll die tomorrow. You MUST obey the pug dog! Last edited by DrBob; 01-22-2007 at 10:29 PM.

01-23-2007, 11:27 AM	#5 (permalink)
geoffsimpson Throttle Jockey Joined: Jun 2006 Bike: Grey, not silver, GREY 2006 Suzuki Boulevard M50 * 1983 GS750E Cafe Racer project Location: Prince George BC Posts: 3,126	Pick which ever one is more your style, they're both good. __________________ Please Note: All opinions contained herein are worth exactly what you paid for them. It's true that every time you hear a bell ring, an angel gets its wings... But what they don't tell you is that every time you hear a mouse trap "snap", and Angel gets set on fire... Grey * De-badged * V & H Straightshots w/ Thunder-Monster Baffles and Billet Hot-Tips * POWAH COMMANDAH!! * Kury Wide Style Levers * Kury Zombie Pegs (what's left of them) * Johnskit Forward Controls * Johnskit 2.5" Lowering Kit * Carbon Fibre-esque Trim kit * your mom * Memphis Shades HellCat windshield * Passenger Backrest * Baddass MO-FO behind the bars * Metz 880's w/ lettering * Flamed Thunder MFG Teardrop Intake *

01-26-2007, 09:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
geoffsimpson Throttle Jockey Joined: Jun 2006 Bike: Grey, not silver, GREY 2006 Suzuki Boulevard M50 * 1983 GS750E Cafe Racer project Location: Prince George BC Posts: 3,126	Ditto, I'd have made fun of you for the other one...it was just a test. Besides, I hear the Yamaha only comes in Pink __________________ Please Note: All opinions contained herein are worth exactly what you paid for them. It's true that every time you hear a bell ring, an angel gets its wings... But what they don't tell you is that every time you hear a mouse trap "snap", and Angel gets set on fire... Grey * De-badged * V & H Straightshots w/ Thunder-Monster Baffles and Billet Hot-Tips * POWAH COMMANDAH!! * Kury Wide Style Levers * Kury Zombie Pegs (what's left of them) * Johnskit Forward Controls * Johnskit 2.5" Lowering Kit * Carbon Fibre-esque Trim kit * your mom * Memphis Shades HellCat windshield * Passenger Backrest * Baddass MO-FO behind the bars * Metz 880's w/ lettering * Flamed Thunder MFG Teardrop Intake *

01-22-2007, 09:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
DaveMc Seat Tester Joined: Jun 2006 Bike: Suzuki C50T Location: Tampa FL Posts: 92	For $15,000 US dollars you should be able to buy an M109R and have change left over, even at inflated prices. Am I missing something? They are $12,599 dealer's / MSRP here. The M50 lists for $6899.00 US dollars. The M50 is a great bike; can't speak about the Vulcan, but I suspect it is a fine machine as well.

01-26-2007, 05:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
gandalf Newbie Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3	thank you very much for your responses and it right in Mexico the taxes are real hig thats why you end paying more than states i think i will buy the suzuki it fits my eye again thank you

01-26-2007, 08:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
Sgt Mike Banned Joined: Feb 2006 Bike: 2006 Suzuki C50 Location: Hagerstown, Maryland Posts: 709	Great choice. You're gonna love that bike.

01-27-2007, 09:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
NateHarris Clunked into first gear Joined: Oct 2006 Bike: 07 Suzuki M50 Location: Fort Mill, SC 29707 Posts: 215	Puhleeze, $300 to ride around Mexico? What am I missing here? That is just retarded. Last edited by NateHarris; 01-27-2007 at 09:25 PM.

02-07-2007, 09:28 AM	#11 (permalink)
hammersfan U.B's LoveChild Joined: Jan 2006 Bike: 2008 C90 SE Location: Ajax ,Ontario ,Canada Posts: 1,226	Wildwolf is correct in North America but its possibly different in Mexico. I know in England the M50 is called the Intruder 800. Go figure ! __________________ Ride Safe Hammersfan

02-07-2007, 05:55 PM	#13 (permalink)
hutz Ditch Magnet Joined: Mar 2005 Bike: 2005 M50 Black Location: Oak Ridge, TN. Posts: 196	owned them both and the suzuki wins hands down. Fuel injection over carburation any day.

02-26-2007, 10:25 PM	#14 (permalink)
Jackalope Seat Tester Joined: Oct 2006 Bike: in my future Location: Roswell, Ga. Posts: 62	What does it take for a Mexican to visit America...legally, I mean? Come over for a week's vacation. Buy the bike at American prices, ride it enough to classify it as a used vehicle, and then take it back to Mexico and pay much lower tariff's. What's wrong with this plan?

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