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| Sprocket Pilot ![]() Joined: Mar 2006
Bike: '04 Vulcan 2000, '05 VTX1800
Location: Arlington, Texas
Posts: 866
| Sounds like all's well that ends well here. The air injection system is usually there to promote afterburning of exhaust gasses, once they have exited the cylinders. Air injection also helps maintain high temperatures in the catalytic converters that are inside many stock exhaust systems, as they must be hot to work effectively...
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| Seat Tester Joined: Aug 2006
Bike: Suzuki C90T 2005
Location: Meridian, MS
Posts: 59
| I have an 05 90T with Vance and Hines pipes. It backfires when I let off the throttle. There is a possible fix out there and some may be able to help with this. That is a Power Commander. I haven't purchased one yet but just got back from a rally where power commander was set up and talked to the guys there. I know they sell these things but they say they really work. We discussed this in a forum in the mechanics corner several months ago.
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| Sit speling cheker ![]() Joined: Jun 2006
Bike: Suzuki C90T
Location: Chandler Arizona
Posts: 1,714
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| Newbie Joined: Jun 2008
Bike: 2007 Suzuki Boulevard C90
Location: Olathe, Kansas
Posts: 4
| BE WARE... Diisconnecting and blocking the two hoses leading from the pair valve to the cylinders will cause an FI failure, maybe not immediately but it WILL happened. I had/have the same problem and after finding that in relation to work that had to be done which required the pipes to be removed 2 or 3 times, the techs did not replace the exhaust gaskets which after being tightened down multiple times, caused them to not seat properly causing air leaks and making the problem worse. They also suggested to bypass the pair valve, in the manner described and sure enough while riding down the highway in heavy traffic, FI failure which almost caused an accident. If you want to bypass the pair valve, block off the hose ends on the air box and on the input to the pair valve from the air box. For whatever reason, there is enough air flow or vacuum to activate the pair valve and if it is not present it will fail, stalling the engine. You can simply turn the bike off completely and start it again and it will run again until it fails again, but I found this to be a unrecommended situation. I put aftermarket pipes on with a Dyno Jet Power Commander (fuel management system - recommended by the dealership which I found out later is not necessary on the C90) and a K&N filter in, and all of that enhanced the backfiring problem. As I found out, when the PC was installed, the connections for the power were accomplished with wire tap connections. This eventually cut through the power wires causing intermittent connections, which cause the PC to "reboot" especially at lower RPM's. After having the connections soldered, a vast majority of the coughing and a lot of the backfiring went away. What really made a difference was replacing the exhaust gaskets (every time you remove the pipes), blocking the pair valve the way I described, and having a Dyno Test performed, creating a custom fuel management map for the way my bike is set up and running. Probably better than 80% of the roughness, backfiring, sputtering has been eliminated, and the power and mpg has increased by 42%. An amazing turnaround. Insidentally, I also bought mine new, and had the dealership put on the pipes and the PC, and they loaded a map that was no where in the same ballpark as what was needed, and Dyno Jet did not even have a solution. Hope this helps, let me know. |
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| Where Am I ? Joined: Aug 2008
Bike: 2008 suzuki boulevard c 90
Location: Valdosta GA/ Macon GA
Posts: 39
| Hi, I'm an idiot, I bought a new c90, mine started slight popping and gurgling on decel, after I installed aftermarket parts, I thought it sounded pretty cool, everybody says that it sounds mean also, a few guys even wanted to know how I did it cause they wanted theirs to sound like mine, but after reading this post, the popping and gurgling is not good to have, huh?
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| In The Zone ![]() Joined: Jul 2007
Bike: 07' C90T 76' MT250
Location: 3rd house NW of the Depot
Posts: 2,727
| Popping on decel sounds cool?? Since when?? It would help if you were more specific as to what you have installed. Pipes, FI controller, high flow filter, etc... Usually if just a new pipe install a FI processor is not necessary. The popping could also, I know from experience, be caused by your exhaust crush gaskets either being damaged on install or not properly seated. Did you put new ones in?? They are typically a one time use gasket. Did you torque the header bolts down slowly and evenly to 17ftlbs?? Blah, blah, blah...
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