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dichotomous · 03-10-2006, 08:18 AM

is there a middle to heavyweight cruiser that is good in the twisties with a lot of lean and good cornering? or am I gonna be limited in the cornering with any middleweight?

**intimid8er** · 03-10-2006, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dichotomous

is there a middle to heavyweight cruiser that is good in the twisties with a lot of lean and good cornering? or am I gonna be limited in the cornering with any middleweight?

See the Moto Guzzi section. Thread titled Griso!

old&slow · 03-10-2006, 09:43 AM

You are talking about a Meanstreak/Marauder 1600!

dichotomous · 03-10-2006, 09:50 AM

the meanie doesnt look tall enough or narrow enough to really lean in into sharp bends. I was also wondering if you could lift an M50 4" or so. taller fork and custom rear swingarm or something. I'm tall enough to not worry about seat hight. just throwing ideas around in my head, seeing whats possible and whats not, that griso is the ultimate, but its also $14grand.....

old&slow · 03-10-2006, 10:21 AM

Do some research...I think you'll find that the meanie is for a large cruzer the best handling machine in it's class...
Unless your looking for a small bike.
An interesting article comparing big twins:
http://motorcyclecruiser.com/roadtests/littlebigtwins/

The Marauder is a Meanie in a Suzuki package!

old&slow · 03-10-2006, 10:24 AM

an older article from 2002:
http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/roadtests/Twins02/

dichotomous · 03-10-2006, 10:56 AM

well I was thinking 800-1100cc, I've got an LS650, which is aparently pretty good in the twisties, and from trying out the lean angle while parked (its a pretty light bike) it seems to like tilting over to the side quite far.... but eventually I am going to want something that fits me better, I am JUST a tad bit cramped on that machine. its in my garage to cut my teeth on you know, not keep forever

Danr · 03-10-2006, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by intimid8er

See the Moto Guzzi section. Thread titled Griso!

+1

A very much overlooked brand

Kingby · 03-10-2006, 12:49 PM

What about an S83. Light, nimble, good power to weight. Not sure how much lean you can get out of it??

dichotomous · 03-10-2006, 01:37 PM

you have a good point about the S83, same style as my current bike too, which is nice, I like it and all. big 83" motor too.

Rickster · 03-10-2006, 02:03 PM

The term Cruiser, and lean angle, don't usually fit in the same sentence. The "S" model Suzukis should be your best bet. If you really want to bump the handeling up, and still be comfortable, throw a leg over a V Strom.

dichotomous · 03-10-2006, 02:10 PM

well what I was thinking originally was SV650, cheep, plenty of power, reportedly beautifull in the corners and a real practical and worthy machine. but, I like the cruiser look and feel and the SV is kinda ugly (thats just a personal assesment, not to degrade anyone who likes the SV, but the yamaha and honda nakeds are much more attractive, though pricier and NOT VTwins....) but I may go that way anyways.

St0nkingByte · 03-10-2006, 11:43 PM

If you really want to have fun in the twisties move away from the cruisers to a standard or a sport bike. There's a world of difference.

Granted cruisers can do the corners and you can have fun with them, frankly having ridden both there's no comparison.

Kingby · 03-11-2006, 12:57 AM

How about one of theseYamaha MT-01

I don't see it listed on the US Yamaha site, but we have it up here in Canada. I think it may be a european yamaha originally The local dealer has one and I fell in love first time I saw it. The lack of street bike experience and lack of funds prevented me from pulling the trigger.

This thing can haul, turn and look good all at the same time.

old&slow · 03-11-2006, 09:05 AM

Look good? I guess thats an opinion!

Kingby · 03-11-2006, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by old&slow

Look good? I guess thats an opinion!

With a handle like old&slow, I can see why you would have a different opionion about this bike.

BTW, My hockey team (over 30 beer league) is named "old&slow". Suits me with skates on I suppose.

Danr · 03-11-2006, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingby

How about one of theseYamaha MT-01

I don't see it listed on the US Yamaha site, but we have it up here in Canada. I think it may be a european yamaha originally The local dealer has one and I fell in love first time I saw it. The lack of street bike experience and lack of funds prevented me from pulling the trigger.

This thing can haul, turn and look good all at the same time.

Sorry that thing is butt ugly, To each his own.

Kingby · 03-11-2006, 12:28 PM

I agree, each to his own. So heres why I think it looks fantanstic.

If you see it in person is looks so mean. Its go so much presence and that stance... it looks like it wants to attack you. I love the bare bones look and not really into the full fairing sports bikes (although that is also changing a bit). I suppose its a love it or hate it type thing, similar to V-max opinions. I just happen to love it.

I just can't stop thinking about 110 ft-lbs torque on a sportier frame like that. You would would never get get the grin off my face (may have to do a load of laundry at the same time though).

Rickster · 03-11-2006, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingby

I agree, each to his own. So heres why I think it looks fantanstic.

If you see it in person is looks so mean. Its go so much presence and that stance... it looks like it wants to attack you. I love the bare bones look and not really into the full fairing sports bikes (although that is also changing a bit). I suppose its a love it or hate it type thing, similar to V-max opinions. I just happen to love it.

I just can't stop thinking about 110 ft-lbs torque on a sportier frame like that. You would would never get get the grin off my face (may have to do a load of laundry at the same time though).

I'm with you, I love the look of the MT-01

QuacktheDuck · 03-11-2006, 01:12 PM

i like the mt-01 alot, except for the wheels...4 spoke wheels...what the...

if they did a single sided swing arm with 5 spoke wheels that would be nice...

03-10-2006, 08:18 AM	#1 (permalink)
dichotomous Ditch Magnet Joined: Feb 2006 Bike: Blue SV650s K5 Location: the green mountains Posts: 174	carving cruisers? is there a middle to heavyweight cruiser that is good in the twisties with a lot of lean and good cornering? or am I gonna be limited in the cornering with any middleweight? __________________ There's just something about a blue bike...... Throttle on, man, Throttle on..... (does underbar wave)

03-10-2006, 09:50 AM	#4 (permalink)
dichotomous Ditch Magnet Joined: Feb 2006 Bike: Blue SV650s K5 Location: the green mountains Posts: 174	the meanie doesnt look tall enough or narrow enough to really lean in into sharp bends. I was also wondering if you could lift an M50 4" or so. taller fork and custom rear swingarm or something. I'm tall enough to not worry about seat hight. just throwing ideas around in my head, seeing whats possible and whats not, that griso is the ultimate, but its also $14grand..... __________________ There's just something about a blue bike...... Throttle on, man, Throttle on..... (does underbar wave)

03-10-2006, 10:56 AM	#7 (permalink)
dichotomous Ditch Magnet Joined: Feb 2006 Bike: Blue SV650s K5 Location: the green mountains Posts: 174	well I was thinking 800-1100cc, I've got an LS650, which is aparently pretty good in the twisties, and from trying out the lean angle while parked (its a pretty light bike) it seems to like tilting over to the side quite far.... but eventually I am going to want something that fits me better, I am JUST a tad bit cramped on that machine. its in my garage to cut my teeth on you know, not keep forever __________________ There's just something about a blue bike...... Throttle on, man, Throttle on..... (does underbar wave)

03-10-2006, 01:37 PM	#10 (permalink)
dichotomous Ditch Magnet Joined: Feb 2006 Bike: Blue SV650s K5 Location: the green mountains Posts: 174	you have a good point about the S83, same style as my current bike too, which is nice, I like it and all. big 83" motor too. __________________ There's just something about a blue bike...... Throttle on, man, Throttle on..... (does underbar wave)

03-10-2006, 02:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
dichotomous Ditch Magnet Joined: Feb 2006 Bike: Blue SV650s K5 Location: the green mountains Posts: 174	well what I was thinking originally was SV650, cheep, plenty of power, reportedly beautifull in the corners and a real practical and worthy machine. but, I like the cruiser look and feel and the SV is kinda ugly (thats just a personal assesment, not to degrade anyone who likes the SV, but the yamaha and honda nakeds are much more attractive, though pricier and NOT VTwins....) but I may go that way anyways. __________________ There's just something about a blue bike...... Throttle on, man, Throttle on..... (does underbar wave)

03-10-2006, 09:43 AM	#3 (permalink)
old&slow Seat Tester Joined: Jan 2006 Bike: Black 04 Marauder 1600 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 79	You are talking about a Meanstreak/Marauder 1600!

03-10-2006, 10:21 AM	#5 (permalink)
old&slow Seat Tester Joined: Jan 2006 Bike: Black 04 Marauder 1600 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 79	Do some research...I think you'll find that the meanie is for a large cruzer the best handling machine in it's class... Unless your looking for a small bike. An interesting article comparing big twins: http://motorcyclecruiser.com/roadtests/littlebigtwins/ The Marauder is a Meanie in a Suzuki package!

03-10-2006, 10:24 AM	#6 (permalink)
old&slow Seat Tester Joined: Jan 2006 Bike: Black 04 Marauder 1600 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 79	an older article from 2002: http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/roadtests/Twins02/

03-10-2006, 12:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
Kingby Seat Tester Joined: Mar 2006 Bike: Black M50 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 78	What about an S83. Light, nimble, good power to weight. Not sure how much lean you can get out of it??

03-10-2006, 11:43 PM	#13 (permalink)
St0nkingByte Sprocket Pilot Joined: Nov 2004 Bike: 2005 BMW R1200RT Location: Bellevue, WA Posts: 893	If you really want to have fun in the twisties move away from the cruisers to a standard or a sport bike. There's a world of difference. Granted cruisers can do the corners and you can have fun with them, frankly having ridden both there's no comparison. __________________

03-11-2006, 12:57 AM	#14 (permalink)
Kingby Seat Tester Joined: Mar 2006 Bike: Black M50 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 78	How about one of theseYamaha MT-01 I don't see it listed on the US Yamaha site, but we have it up here in Canada. I think it may be a european yamaha originally The local dealer has one and I fell in love first time I saw it. The lack of street bike experience and lack of funds prevented me from pulling the trigger. This thing can haul, turn and look good all at the same time.

03-11-2006, 09:05 AM	#15 (permalink)
old&slow Seat Tester Joined: Jan 2006 Bike: Black 04 Marauder 1600 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 79	Look good? I guess thats an opinion!

03-11-2006, 12:28 PM	#18 (permalink)
Kingby Seat Tester Joined: Mar 2006 Bike: Black M50 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 78	I agree, each to his own. So heres why I think it looks fantanstic. If you see it in person is looks so mean. Its go so much presence and that stance... it looks like it wants to attack you. I love the bare bones look and not really into the full fairing sports bikes (although that is also changing a bit). I suppose its a love it or hate it type thing, similar to V-max opinions. I just happen to love it. I just can't stop thinking about 110 ft-lbs torque on a sportier frame like that. You would would never get get the grin off my face (may have to do a load of laundry at the same time though).

03-11-2006, 01:12 PM	#20 (permalink)
QuacktheDuck Sprocket Pilot Joined: May 2005 Bike: 2004 FZ6 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 858	i like the mt-01 alot, except for the wheels...4 spoke wheels...what the... if they did a single sided swing arm with 5 spoke wheels that would be nice... __________________ Quacktheduck is one lucky duck. Miss my v-strom...06/14/06, the best i ever had...

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