Is this normal for my New M50? - Motorcycle-Journal Forums

xiaoyu · 01-19-2006, 12:37 AM

I normally park my bike in first gear for safety, then shuts off the engine by kickstand. I found out it's difficult to change to neutral before start the engine (my Honda VLX is very easy). After engine start it becomes very easy to change. Is this normal?

Xiaoyu,

BillyBumbler · 01-19-2006, 01:24 AM

Mine doesn't do that. It goes into first just as easily off as on.

Uechi Kid · 01-19-2006, 01:31 AM

That happens with my M95 when I forget to put it in neutral.

BigRed1 · 01-19-2006, 07:44 AM

It may depend on how new your bike is or how it was broke in. I had this problem in the first 500 miles, but soon after things smoothed out. I believe it's likely a break in issue.

Slim-Pickins · 01-19-2006, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRed1

It may depend on how new your bike is or how it was broke in. I had this problem in the first 500 miles, but soon after things smoothed out. I believe it's likely a break in issue.

I agrre with Red...1st 1000 miles my bike at stop lights wouldn't go into neutral sometimes and I would have to push it forward or back a little to get it to drop into gear. After about 1000 limes no problems any more just have to get things used to running, that's all.

Fishpart · 01-19-2006, 09:29 AM

I will have to agree with Red and Slim Pickins mine was the same way now have 7,000 + miles and works fine. I normally start mine then put into neutral and I never use the kick stand to turn off, I always hit kill switch turn key then put down stand this is just my preference.

arkieollie · 01-19-2006, 10:28 AM

I agree with the break in issue. After my first oil change and a little "Marvins Mystery Oil" added to the oil my gear changes have improved dramatically!

jpwM50 · 01-19-2006, 12:48 PM

Slim-Pickins, I suppose it should "After about 1000 limes". LOL

S2Design · 01-19-2006, 12:56 PM

While running, no problem. Going to neutral without the engine running most often have to rock it, any type of incline magnifies this.

**Clint** · 01-19-2006, 01:59 PM

No transmission is designed to shift while not running. It's quite common for them to be sticky while not running and when attempting to shift multiple gears at a stop. Other factors include age of tranny (as mentioned), condition of oil and type of oil. Go to a synthetic after break-in and all will be heavenly.

axel_2078 · 01-19-2006, 05:10 PM

I thought this was determined by how your gears are aligned when you come to a stop, not due to break in....the same effect as shifting into neutral before you're fully stopped and then you can't pop it into first again unless you roll forward or backward or let out the clutch some. Am I wrong?

**Clint** · 01-19-2006, 06:29 PM

Nope, that's exactly right. In a bike tranny, you aren't actually aligning gears, but gears and "dogs", or pins that slide into the side of a gear. It's even more fussy than two gears.

BowDown · 01-22-2006, 02:51 PM

Ya, I noticed this when I would shift into neutral at stops... I would have to let the clutch out, then engage it again then it would drop into 1st without a problem.

01-19-2006, 12:37 AM	#1 (permalink)
xiaoyu Newbie Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 18	Is this normal for my New M50? I normally park my bike in first gear for safety, then shuts off the engine by kickstand. I found out it's difficult to change to neutral before start the engine (my Honda VLX is very easy). After engine start it becomes very easy to change. Is this normal? Xiaoyu,

01-19-2006, 12:48 PM	#8 (permalink)
jpwM50 Clutch Cadet Joined: Jul 2005 Bike: Blue M50 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 944	Slim-Pickins, I suppose it should "After about 1000 limes". LOL __________________

01-19-2006, 12:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
S2Design Member Investigator Joined: Oct 2005 Bike: '03 Santa Cruz Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,022	While running, no problem. Going to neutral without the engine running most often have to rock it, any type of incline magnifies this. __________________ "In prosperity our friends know us; in adversity we know our friends." John Churton Collins

01-19-2006, 05:10 PM	#11 (permalink)
axel_2078 Sit speling cheker Joined: May 2004 Bike: 2003 Marauder 800 Location: Fairview Heights, IL Posts: 1,668	I thought this was determined by how your gears are aligned when you come to a stop, not due to break in....the same effect as shifting into neutral before you're fully stopped and then you can't pop it into first again unless you roll forward or backward or let out the clutch some. Am I wrong? __________________ "Rome didn't win wars by holding meetings. They did it by crushing those who opposed them." - unknown Everyone has a dark side. Mine's just a little closer to the surface.

01-22-2006, 02:51 PM	#13 (permalink)
BowDown Clunked into first gear Joined: Oct 2005 Bike: Blue Hayabusa Location: Central, NY Posts: 241	Ya, I noticed this when I would shift into neutral at stops... I would have to let the clutch out, then engage it again then it would drop into 1st without a problem. __________________ Project Great White: 2000 White F350 Auto, 4wd, CrewCab, Dually, Turbo Diesel, ShortBox - 6637 Mod Project Red Streak: 2000 Focus ZX3 - '99 WRC Bumper, Euro Headlights/Grill/Bumper, Full Custom Leather Interior, 2.25" Drop Project WTF: 2007 Blue Suzuki Hayabusa - Shaved, Rear Links/Tree Spacers (Lowered 1.25"), VisionPro 6k High/Low HIDs, Tail Bag

01-19-2006, 01:24 AM	#2 (permalink)
BillyBumbler Kickstand Operator Joined: Oct 2005 Bike: 2005 M50 Black Location: Bakersfield, CA Posts: 268	Mine doesn't do that. It goes into first just as easily off as on.

01-19-2006, 01:31 AM	#3 (permalink)
Uechi Kid Fourth gear and illegal Joined: Sep 2005 Bike: 04 M95, Yamaha VStar 650 Location: Antioch, Ca. Posts: 744	That happens with my M95 when I forget to put it in neutral.

01-19-2006, 07:44 AM	#4 (permalink)
BigRed1 Ditch Magnet Joined: Aug 2005 Bike: 2005 M50 Location: Ashburn, Va. Posts: 195	It may depend on how new your bike is or how it was broke in. I had this problem in the first 500 miles, but soon after things smoothed out. I believe it's likely a break in issue.

01-19-2006, 09:29 AM	#6 (permalink)
Fishpart Fourth gear and illegal Joined: Apr 2005 Bike: 2007 Harley Davidson Electa Glide Location: York, Pa Posts: 783	I will have to agree with Red and Slim Pickins mine was the same way now have 7,000 + miles and works fine. I normally start mine then put into neutral and I never use the kick stand to turn off, I always hit kill switch turn key then put down stand this is just my preference.

01-19-2006, 10:28 AM	#7 (permalink)
arkieollie Kickstand Operator Joined: Dec 2005 Bike: Sold my m50 and got a 07 street bob Posts: 285	I agree with the break in issue. After my first oil change and a little "Marvins Mystery Oil" added to the oil my gear changes have improved dramatically!

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