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Jayhawkk · 10-12-2005, 08:22 AM

Watched the how to video on debaffling my bike and it started off wrong because instead of a 1.5 inch hole saw bit I needed a 1.75 one as the guide. 2 cordless drills that keep dying and finally when I get the top pipe cut through the damn center part will not come out from the backside baffle and to top it off it's raining

Damn, i love my days off

Pinhy · 10-12-2005, 08:36 AM

murphy's law....sorry man.

let us know how everything turns out in the end.

.

Jayhawkk · 10-12-2005, 08:41 AM

Catherine · 10-12-2005, 08:45 AM

just keep moving the stick up and down and around, it will eventually!!

Catherine

Pinhy · 10-12-2005, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catherine

just keep moving the stick up and down and around, it will eventually!!

Catherine

yeah what she said....as the metal keeps flexing, it will finally break...they say it can take a while.

hope it works

.

Mavman · 10-12-2005, 09:05 AM

+1 to that......just did it back in late August.......it's like, "how the friggin' long is this gonna take!!" took me about an hour, I turned it, done the up and down side to side, gripped it with vise grips and pulled a few times-(get a helper if needed, to keep the bike from falling over) and went back to turning the dowell side to side...it will come just seems to take for ever.

Pinhy · 10-12-2005, 09:06 AM

there ya have it...an HOUR!!

patience young grasshopper!

.

Jayhawkk · 10-12-2005, 09:10 AM

Just got one of em out but I cheated...I took a screw driver and a hammer to fold back the wall of the inner baffle. It's too damn cold and wet to be out there an hour plus my wife just took my cup of coffee so I needed a way to relieve the stress quicker

Jayhawkk · 10-12-2005, 09:11 AM

Turned on the bike just to see how it sounded with one out and I like it already. took away that moped sound it had.

stp1971 · 10-12-2005, 09:26 AM

UH OH,,,, somewhere I read it is a bad thing to debaffle the C90/VL1500LC,,,, don't know where I read it but something about screwing the bikes performance up seriously.
Are you going to put in the ThunderMonsters????? I was going to debaffle mine and I think it was DrBob who said that it was not a good idea on the "LC". Might want to check with him or Moccasin Mike on this.

blackie1491 · 10-12-2005, 01:19 PM

I like the sound of the stock pipes as they are. I am at 5,000 miles and they are broken in. I think with the addition of the K&N, the sound is just right.

Jayhawkk · 10-12-2005, 02:12 PM

Well, apparently you can't debaffle the bottom pipe. It isn't set up the same way. I suppose with a sawzall or something like that you could but it isn't something I even want to try at this point. I'll just ride it like it is until I get new pipes. It sounds better than what it did. I rode it around the block but only had it to second gear but I didn't notice anything...so far. I did call up the dealer prior to doing this to make sure it wouldn't void any warranties etc and they said it wouldn't.

It's the end of the riding year I doubt i'll even get to the 600 mile mark so I have plenty of time to buy my new pipes and power commander etc.

Pinhy · 10-12-2005, 02:16 PM

i am betting one debaffle and one stck is NOT good for the engine....backpressure being totally diff from one cylinder to the next?

asking for trouble if you ask me. id ask some people who know more at this point.

.

Jayhawkk · 10-12-2005, 02:26 PM

Yeah, the backpressure is the one thing that I am concerned about. I am looking up information right now about it so see how much of a pressure difference there is. Remember that the back plate is still intact which has three small holes. It isn't a straight pipe in that sense. I suppose I could drill holes around the thing to let more air escape but as of right now i'm just holding off until I find more info.

At the very worst I will just have to buy new pipes

Merry christmas...To me!

bud van houten · 10-13-2005, 01:35 PM

if this to out of hand, i have a nice set of vance and hines 2into1 pipes i'd sell pretty cheap. later, bud

jkulysses · 10-13-2005, 02:24 PM

I didn't know that V & H made a 2 into 1 pipe for this bike? Nevermind, I just remembered that he has A C90. Wish I had a rear disc brake.

**drgibson** · 10-13-2005, 02:27 PM

Jay I feel your pain!! I am having the same issue with my M95 ans distructions I got for debaffling, 'cept mine won't even wiggle.

10-12-2005, 08:22 AM	#1 (permalink)
Jayhawkk Seat Tester Joined: Oct 2005 Bike: 2005 Suzuki C90 Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 88	It never can be as easy as it looks. Watched the how to video on debaffling my bike and it started off wrong because instead of a 1.5 inch hole saw bit I needed a 1.75 one as the guide. 2 cordless drills that keep dying and finally when I get the top pipe cut through the damn center part will not come out from the backside baffle and to top it off it's raining Damn, i love my days off

10-12-2005, 08:45 AM	#4 (permalink)
Catherine Clunked into first gear Joined: Sep 2005 Bike: '05 C50 Limited Location: Reno, Nevada Posts: 208	just keep moving the stick up and down and around, it will eventually!! Catherine __________________ Catherine, biker buddy to soulmate Ray 40 and loving life! ~Mom of 2 Humans~ and 2 costly machines...

10-12-2005, 09:26 AM	#10 (permalink)
stp1971 May 2007 Member of the month Joined: Mar 2005 Bike: 2004 Suzuki Intruder 1500LC / 2005 Suzuki DL650 V-Strom Location: Douglasville, Georgia Posts: 7,833	UH OH,,,, somewhere I read it is a bad thing to debaffle the C90/VL1500LC,,,, don't know where I read it but something about screwing the bikes performance up seriously. Are you going to put in the ThunderMonsters????? I was going to debaffle mine and I think it was DrBob who said that it was not a good idea on the "LC". Might want to check with him or Moccasin Mike on this. __________________ Biketoberfest 2006 flashback courtesy of Intimid8er: "Like you knew damn well you shouldn't eat something like that, but all be damned to hell, you were gonna eat it!" __________________

10-13-2005, 02:27 PM	#17 (permalink)
drgibson Antebellum Mod Joined: Jul 2005 Bike: 2008 Kawasaki KLR 650 Location: Dallas, Texas Directly above the center of the earth. Posts: 10,742	Jay I feel your pain!! I am having the same issue with my M95 ans distructions I got for debaffling, 'cept mine won't even wiggle. __________________ “Please Remember to Kazoo Responsibly.”

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10-12-2005, 08:36 AM	#2 (permalink)
Pinhy Doesn't think you're funny Joined: Dec 2004 Bike: 05 Boulevard M50 Black Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 5,210	murphy's law....sorry man. let us know how everything turns out in the end. .

10-12-2005, 08:41 AM	#3 (permalink)
Jayhawkk Seat Tester Joined: Oct 2005 Bike: 2005 Suzuki C90 Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 88

10-12-2005, 09:06 AM	#7 (permalink)
Pinhy Doesn't think you're funny Joined: Dec 2004 Bike: 05 Boulevard M50 Black Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 5,210	there ya have it...an HOUR!! patience young grasshopper! .

10-12-2005, 09:10 AM	#8 (permalink)
Jayhawkk Seat Tester Joined: Oct 2005 Bike: 2005 Suzuki C90 Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 88	Just got one of em out but I cheated...I took a screw driver and a hammer to fold back the wall of the inner baffle. It's too damn cold and wet to be out there an hour plus my wife just took my cup of coffee so I needed a way to relieve the stress quicker

10-12-2005, 09:11 AM	#9 (permalink)
Jayhawkk Seat Tester Joined: Oct 2005 Bike: 2005 Suzuki C90 Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 88	Turned on the bike just to see how it sounded with one out and I like it already. took away that moped sound it had.

10-12-2005, 01:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
blackie1491 I took the All Bran Challenge Joined: Jun 2005 Bike: C50SE Location: Aldergrove, B.C., Canada Posts: 7,333	I like the sound of the stock pipes as they are. I am at 5,000 miles and they are broken in. I think with the addition of the K&N, the sound is just right.

10-12-2005, 02:12 PM	#12 (permalink)
Jayhawkk Seat Tester Joined: Oct 2005 Bike: 2005 Suzuki C90 Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 88	Well, apparently you can't debaffle the bottom pipe. It isn't set up the same way. I suppose with a sawzall or something like that you could but it isn't something I even want to try at this point. I'll just ride it like it is until I get new pipes. It sounds better than what it did. I rode it around the block but only had it to second gear but I didn't notice anything...so far. I did call up the dealer prior to doing this to make sure it wouldn't void any warranties etc and they said it wouldn't. It's the end of the riding year I doubt i'll even get to the 600 mile mark so I have plenty of time to buy my new pipes and power commander etc.

10-12-2005, 02:16 PM	#13 (permalink)
Pinhy Doesn't think you're funny Joined: Dec 2004 Bike: 05 Boulevard M50 Black Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 5,210	i am betting one debaffle and one stck is NOT good for the engine....backpressure being totally diff from one cylinder to the next? asking for trouble if you ask me. id ask some people who know more at this point. .

10-12-2005, 02:26 PM	#14 (permalink)
Jayhawkk Seat Tester Joined: Oct 2005 Bike: 2005 Suzuki C90 Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 88	Yeah, the backpressure is the one thing that I am concerned about. I am looking up information right now about it so see how much of a pressure difference there is. Remember that the back plate is still intact which has three small holes. It isn't a straight pipe in that sense. I suppose I could drill holes around the thing to let more air escape but as of right now i'm just holding off until I find more info. At the very worst I will just have to buy new pipes Merry christmas...To me!

10-13-2005, 01:35 PM	#15 (permalink)
bud van houten Ditch Magnet Joined: Sep 2005 Bike: 2000 intruder lc 1500 Location: kansas city, mo. Posts: 175	if this to out of hand, i have a nice set of vance and hines 2into1 pipes i'd sell pretty cheap. later, bud

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10-13-2005, 02:24 PM	#16 (permalink)
jkulysses Sprocket Pilot Joined: Sep 2005 Bike: 2006 Blue M50 Location: Oregon Posts: 832	I didn't know that V & H made a 2 into 1 pipe for this bike? Nevermind, I just remembered that he has A C90. Wish I had a rear disc brake.