C109R Surge - Motorcycle-Journal Forums

Xantos · 10-02-2008, 03:38 PM

I have had my 109 for about six months and I continue to have power surges when I am in 3rd and 4th gears running at a constant speed. I took it to the dealer but it came back still doing the surge. Anyone else having this issue? I figure it was probably something to do with the fuel injection but that is just my guess.

frostbitevinnie · 10-02-2008, 08:13 PM

Might help if you tell us of any AM goodies you have added. Pipes, processor, filter????

grandpatractor · 10-02-2008, 09:18 PM

Looks like it's time to install a "bully"!!!
It eliminated my surging problems.

frostbitevinnie · 10-03-2008, 12:18 PM

Surging is indicative of a lean condition. I would think that Xantos is running a high flow filter and AM pipes without a processor. AFR is probably in the range of 16 or 17 and should be no higher than 14.7. So the dealer, being usually of little help, did not put 1 and 1 together.

J.D. did you do filter and pipe mods before adding the Bully or were you having surging problems running stock??

lon · 10-03-2008, 01:18 PM

install a power commander or a fi2000r
making it a little bit richer will get rid of that.

frostbitevinnie · 10-03-2008, 05:52 PM

The Bully is superior IMO.

grandpatractor · 10-03-2008, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by frostbitevinnie

J.D. did you do filter and pipe mods before adding the Bully or were you having surging problems running stock??

It came from the factory that way. I haven't done any mods to the intake or exhaust yet! I probably will be doing that this winter tho. That is what I like about the Bully. I can set it up for my situation and change it easily as I go with more mods.

cccbigman · 10-04-2008, 07:54 PM

Hola all, new to the journal. Haven't had any problems with my 109 at all. Had it for about a month now. Graduated from the C50. The wife has that one now.

johbren · 10-05-2008, 10:31 AM

Ive heard of that problem with the c50s. Its in the fuel injection system. Cure is a new fuel proccessor.

grandpatractor · 10-05-2008, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cccbigman

Hola all, new to the journal. Haven't had any problems with my 109 at all. Had it for about a month now. Graduated from the C50. The wife has that one now.

Welcome to the forum. It's good to have another "9" aboard!!

cccbigman · 10-06-2008, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by grandpatractor

Welcome to the forum. It's good to have another "9" aboard!!

Thanks, I appreciate it.

Xantos · 10-07-2008, 03:56 PM

I have not done anything to the exhaust; it is as it came from the factory.

lon · 10-13-2008, 10:57 AM

I installed the PCIII last week using the m109 stock map from power commander website. Got rid of the surging smoothed out acceleration and also have better pickup.
Going to install a new exhaust and intake then i will take it to get it to the dyno.

Thanks
Lon

Davecm203 · 10-13-2008, 02:56 PM

Does it only do it at a certain rpm range or at all? It is a fast surge or slow?

lon · 10-14-2008, 05:18 PM

for me its just at certain rpm range when holding steady. but making it richer fixed it.

GMan · 10-25-2008, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Xantos

I have not done anything to the exhaust; it is as it came from the factory.

The Bully Controller will allow you to add a bit of fuel at cruise and fix that issue. GManIndustries.com

10-02-2008, 03:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
Xantos Newbie Joined: Sep 2008 Bike: Suzuki C109R Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 7	C109R Surge I have had my 109 for about six months and I continue to have power surges when I am in 3rd and 4th gears running at a constant speed. I took it to the dealer but it came back still doing the surge. Anyone else having this issue? I figure it was probably something to do with the fuel injection but that is just my guess.

10-02-2008, 08:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
frostbitevinnie In The Zone Joined: Jul 2007 Bike: 07' C90T 76' MT250 Location: 3rd house NW of the Depot Posts: 2,719	Might help if you tell us of any AM goodies you have added. Pipes, processor, filter???? __________________ I set up a by knot of soups that valid terrific, and can be made in big batches and frozen. Is there any interest? Karri Tamsin

10-03-2008, 12:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
frostbitevinnie In The Zone Joined: Jul 2007 Bike: 07' C90T 76' MT250 Location: 3rd house NW of the Depot Posts: 2,719	Surging is indicative of a lean condition. I would think that Xantos is running a high flow filter and AM pipes without a processor. AFR is probably in the range of 16 or 17 and should be no higher than 14.7. So the dealer, being usually of little help, did not put 1 and 1 together. J.D. did you do filter and pipe mods before adding the Bully or were you having surging problems running stock?? __________________ I set up a by knot of soups that valid terrific, and can be made in big batches and frozen. Is there any interest? Karri Tamsin

10-03-2008, 05:52 PM	#6 (permalink)
frostbitevinnie In The Zone Joined: Jul 2007 Bike: 07' C90T 76' MT250 Location: 3rd house NW of the Depot Posts: 2,719	The Bully is superior IMO. __________________ I set up a by knot of soups that valid terrific, and can be made in big batches and frozen. Is there any interest? Karri Tamsin

10-13-2008, 02:56 PM	#14 (permalink)
Davecm203 U.B's LoveChild Joined: Apr 2008 Bike: 2006 GSXR750 Location: Central North Carolina Posts: 1,090	Does it only do it at a certain rpm range or at all? It is a fast surge or slow? __________________

10-02-2008, 09:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
grandpatractor In Training Joined: Feb 2008 Bike: 08 Suzuki C109RT Location: wisconsin Posts: 112	Looks like it's time to install a "bully"!!! It eliminated my surging problems.

10-03-2008, 01:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
lon Where Am I ? Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 26	install a power commander or a fi2000r making it a little bit richer will get rid of that.

10-04-2008, 07:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
cccbigman Newbie Joined: Oct 2008 Bike: Suzuki C109R Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 2	Hola all, new to the journal. Haven't had any problems with my 109 at all. Had it for about a month now. Graduated from the C50. The wife has that one now.

10-05-2008, 10:31 AM	#9 (permalink)
johbren Ditch Magnet Joined: Jun 2007 Bike: 2007 red and black c50 Location: lewisburg ohio Posts: 179	Ive heard of that problem with the c50s. Its in the fuel injection system. Cure is a new fuel proccessor.

10-07-2008, 03:56 PM	#12 (permalink)
Xantos Newbie Joined: Sep 2008 Bike: Suzuki C109R Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 7	I have not done anything to the exhaust; it is as it came from the factory.

10-13-2008, 10:57 AM	#13 (permalink)
lon Where Am I ? Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 26	I installed the PCIII last week using the m109 stock map from power commander website. Got rid of the surging smoothed out acceleration and also have better pickup. Going to install a new exhaust and intake then i will take it to get it to the dyno. Thanks Lon

10-14-2008, 05:18 PM	#15 (permalink)
lon Where Am I ? Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 26	for me its just at certain rpm range when holding steady. but making it richer fixed it.

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