2006 M50 in Blue, Brand new from Dealer for $4,899.. good deal?

[squale]

I am looking at getting a Suzuki m50. A dealer I know will sell me a brand new 2006 M50 in Blue for $4,899 plus $55 doc fee and full manufactuers warranty.

Is that a good deal? or do you think I can get the dealer to go lower?

Thanks

[mflueras]

I'm a bit confused: how is a 06 brand new when it's 08? And if this is a dealer you know as you say than what are you doing asking the forum if its a god deal.

That being said, the price seems pretty fair from a dealer, if it has zero miles; especially with the warranty.

[mrcandyman]

I used to sell cars and I can tell you it's definitely fairly common to have a new vehicle on the lot 2 or 3 years later.

I'd say go for it, the 06 has the nicer looking controls anyways though no fuel gauge...*sigh*

[mflueras]

Originally Posted by mrcandyman

I used to sell cars and I can tell you it's definitely fairly common to have a new vehicle on the lot 2 or 3 years later.

I'd say go for it, the 06 has the nicer looking controls anyways though no fuel gauge...*sigh*

No disrespect candyman, but 2 or 3 years later it's no longer new. It's sat on in the dealership without any attention. As far as this being fairly common, I don't know how a dealership can survive with inventory remaining on their lots that long. I just cannot believe the manufacturer, the dealer, or the financier would not push to liquidate such high inventory days vehicles, even if it means losing.

[johnnyvl800]

I bought an '06 C50b in June of '07 and the bad thing about this is the bike's trade-in value is 3600 now. Kelly Blue Book lists an 06' M50 retail at 5245 and a trade-in of 3600. If you finance then want to trade within the next couple years, this is where it stings.
I plan on keeping mine and having it paid off in 3 more years.

[squale]

so does this sound like a good deal?

the dealer is actually a car dealer mainly for suzuki, but they have a very small section on new motorcycles. So that's why this bike has been there for 2 years, you really don't know the dealership even sells motorcycles.

[Clint]

Squabbles about the definition of "new" aside, it sounds like a great deal. I'd still offer $500 less and walk out for a day if they turn you down. It's been sitting that long, they want it gone.

Also consider that you may need to replace the tires, change the oil, etc.

Johnny, I'm not sure why anyone trades a bike in anyway. It's just lazy, if you ask me. It's not hard at all to take out a (free) ad on Craigslist for $500-$2000 over trade-in value.

[squale]

why would i need to replace the tires on a brand new bike? and the bike doesn't and never did yet have any oil or a battery in it.

[Clint]

Time. Ultraviolet lights. Concrete floors. Nothing lasts forever, my man.

[PhotoJoe]

Time and the elements are hard on tires, not just mileage. I don't know the rule of thumb on motorcycle tires, but on RV's, it is highly recommended to NOT go longer than 5-6 years, no matter how the tread looks.

[mrcandyman]

Originally Posted by mflueras

No disrespect candyman, but 2 or 3 years later it's no longer new. It's sat on in the dealership without any attention. As far as this being fairly common, I don't know how a dealership can survive with inventory remaining on their lots that long. I just cannot believe the manufacturer, the dealer, or the financier would not push to liquidate such high inventory days vehicles, even if it means losing.

New refers to mileage. Cars under 2500km (in canada) are sold as new, I'm sure bikes have a similar mileage system. It is NOT a time system. A 50 year old bike can still be sold as new if it's never been over the mileage allotted.

The dealerships or financiers do liquidate the vehicles, which is why they drop in price when the years go by...they can not afford to say "ok, a year's gone by, the bike's now being sold for $1000 instead o $9000" that's financial suicide.

[omegajim]

I don't know the rule of thumb on motorcycle tires, but on RV's, it is highly recommended to NOT go longer than 5-6 years, no matter how the tread looks.

Maybe 7 years, if it's stored inside. Outside the uv rays will zap the tires.

[johnnyvl800]

Rowdy, forgive my character flaws.
Now Squale, look at the bike
http://www.suzukicycles.com/products/M50K6
I would probably have jumped on it if I was sure it was the bike I wanted.

[omegajim]

a good deal is pretty subjective.

If you're in Canada, you should be able to wait it out for a really good deal.

Failing that you should be able to import a good deal, currencies being what they are and all. On the used market.

[Rockhead]

If the bikes still crated id say the tires are fine. Even kept inside away from the elements id still say the tires are fine.

Yeah that sounds like a good deal but do what Rowdy said and see if you can squeeze a few more bucks off the deal or see if they'll throw in a few accessories

[mflueras]

Originally Posted by mrcandyman

New refers to mileage. Cars under 2500km (in canada) are sold as new, I'm sure bikes have a similar mileage system. It is NOT a time system. A 50 year old bike can still be sold as new if it's never been over the mileage allotted.

The dealerships or financiers do liquidate the vehicles, which is why they drop in price when the years go by...they can not afford to say "ok, a year's gone by, the bike's now being sold for $1000 instead o $9000" that's financial suicide.

...a 50 year old bike can be sold as new...roflol...maybe in Canada.

Vehicles can be sold as new in the states as long as they have never been registered/titled. Then they become legally used regardless of mileage. However a "new" never titled unit that was used by the GM as a demo car and now has a couple thousand miles is really no longer new even though it still has few miles. Enter program vehicles, I'm sure you've heard of them See, new for vehicles has both a time and mileage requirement. Everything else I'm sure only time applies. Who would consider a 30 year old unused washing machine new? I think the proper term is just that a 30 year old never used somethingorother. And as far as financial suicide, it would be if you let a product remain unsold for that long. Most if not all new dealers do not own their inventory, instead they use financial companies' money and pay a fee customarily referred to as floor plan. Thus the longer the vehicle stays on the lot the more it costs the dealer, and there's the incentive to liquidate. There are of course other incentives that have nothing to do with monetary gains, such as the manufacturer allowing dealers a limited number of special high end models directly related to how many generic models they sell, so dealers might reduce price and lose a little on those just so they can offer the high end models which usually come with premium prices.

[squale]

okay so getting back to topic, is $4,900 a good deal for this bike? this IS the blue color I want and all, so it just comes down to price. At first the dealer wanted $5,400 for the bike, but I told him forget it because I could get another one with low miles and a bunch of accesories for $4,800. So then he came right down to $4,900. I wonder if I should go in there and offer him $4,600... or will that just be ridiculously low? He said he's already losing money selling me the bike for $4,900.

Thanks all!

[mflueras]

The bike is worth 4900. Look it up on eBay if you wish, but the season is opening and it will sell at that price. If it was me I'd buy it.

[mrcandyman]

Originally Posted by mflueras

Vehicles can be sold as new in the states as long as they have never been registered/titled. Then they become legally used regardless of mileage.

Exactly, except here, even an untitled vehile once over 2500km becomes classified as used. It sounds like we're pretty much on the same track just speaking a different language.

If in 50 years you have a car on the dealership that has never been titled and not over 2500km, then it is still classified as a new vehicle.

[amvince]

If he is selling it to your for that price including freight and prep it is a good deal. The local dealer by me had and 07 leftover listed for about $5,250.00 plus the delivery and prep. Of course they stuck some extras on it to try to make extra money. Most new bikes get hit for about $600.00 in delivery and set up fees.