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Keepitsimple · 03-26-2006, 05:55 PM

I was at the honda shop the other day looking for my first road bike. I have had my eye on the suzuki c-90 . when i asked the saleman how would you compare the vtx 1300 to the c-90 ,he said the suzuki is old school technology and the vtx can run circles around it. I replied with , do you conceder jetted carbs to be new school teck on the vtx. He siad vtx is still faster humm... i thought o well i really like the c-90 . Can anyone tell me if air verses liquid cooled. Is old school air cooled more reliable longer lasting or should i just settle for a honda and dose anyone know horsepower difference
between the two.

Nanuk · 03-27-2006, 06:20 AM

Liquid cooled is better, Longer lasting, more power. Tolerances are tighter and tuning is easier from jug to jug... At least on a V-twin because each jug is the same temp. I can't answer your HP question. See if his 1300 VTX wants to try my M-95.

MagnumForce · 03-27-2006, 06:37 AM

Three questions you need to ask your salesman:

1. Since the C90 is fuel injected vs. carbureted on the VTX1300, how is the C90 old school technology?
2. Since when is the VTX a performance machine? That's what the CBR is for!
3. Does your salesman even know what the heck he's talking about?

What a goober!

viper94bite · 03-27-2006, 08:30 AM

Most salesman are idiots! They only know enough basic information to sell a bike to those that are not experienced riders. Do your own research. I had one that was convinced that the yamaha R1 and 6 were 470lbs. Do your own research, sit on the bikes, even test ride em. Google is your friend as well.

NCBoulevard · 03-27-2006, 10:27 AM

Check the price tag on both bikes. Odds are the Honda cost more which equals more commission in the stealers pocket.

As others said, Do your own research. Go for a ride on em. Just don't depend on the stealer for accurate info.

stp1971 · 03-28-2006, 10:31 AM

All except the gas tank,,lol!!!!! The LC has alot of low end grunt,,if you romp down on it there is a slight hesitation to it then after it starts moving the powerband seems to kick in and it takes off rapidly. I have friends that have VTX1300's and 1800's and they walk away from me everytime,,but they don't get too far ahead.

Of course I am not downshifting either. But it is a great bike,,just make sure you get one with the gas tank modification done already before it has a chance to crack.

tlwisner · 04-28-2006, 02:27 PM

It doesn't matter which bike is faster or has more hp, it matters if the bike has enough power to satisfy you.

Or, just go get a Boss Hoss.

hammersfan · 05-18-2008, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tlwisner

It doesn't matter which bike is faster or has more hp, it matters if the bike has enough power to satisfy you.

Or, just go get a Boss Hoss.

Ask him how much a service is on the VTX compared to the C90 ! Valve adjustment and coolant changes spring to mind.

frostbitevinnie · 05-25-2008, 10:36 AM

I didn't buy my 90 to race it. I like the VTX but IMO the C90T is a superior machine. The 1800T is still almost $15K and the 1300T is almost $11K. I paid $9.6K new for mine on sale. I am ahead, if not in distance then in $$.

What's this about the gas tank cracking and mod. Have not heard that one yet.

KROW · 05-25-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by frostbitevinnie

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What's this about the gas tank cracking and mod. Have not heard that one yet.

The link to the Transport Canada recall site for it is:
Vehicle Recalls On-Line Database

I don't know what the equivalent link in the US us but it will almost certainly have the same info/description

frostbitevinnie · 05-26-2008, 06:35 AM

Looks like my 07' was not a part of the recall but I will inspect it at times anyway. Thanks for the link Krow!!!

03-26-2006, 05:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
Keepitsimple Newbie Joined: Mar 2006 Bike: looking for a c-90 Location: wa. Posts: 1	bying new bike I was at the honda shop the other day looking for my first road bike. I have had my eye on the suzuki c-90 . when i asked the saleman how would you compare the vtx 1300 to the c-90 ,he said the suzuki is old school technology and the vtx can run circles around it. I replied with , do you conceder jetted carbs to be new school teck on the vtx. He siad vtx is still faster humm... i thought o well i really like the c-90 . Can anyone tell me if air verses liquid cooled. Is old school air cooled more reliable longer lasting or should i just settle for a honda and dose anyone know horsepower difference between the two.

03-27-2006, 06:20 AM	#2 (permalink)
Nanuk Seat Tester Joined: Mar 2006 Bike: 2005 Suzuki M-95 Location: North Dakota, USA Posts: 59	Liquid cooled is better, Longer lasting, more power. Tolerances are tighter and tuning is easier from jug to jug... At least on a V-twin because each jug is the same temp. I can't answer your HP question. See if his 1300 VTX wants to try my M-95. __________________ I am not fat.... I am big boned....

03-27-2006, 06:37 AM	#3 (permalink)
MagnumForce Throttle Jockey Joined: May 2005 Bike: 05 M50, 06 CBR600F4i Location: Sitting on the can... duh! Posts: 3,160	Three questions you need to ask your salesman: 1. Since the C90 is fuel injected vs. carbureted on the VTX1300, how is the C90 old school technology? 2. Since when is the VTX a performance machine? That's what the CBR is for! 3. Does your salesman even know what the heck he's talking about? What a goober! __________________ "I love the smell of toner in the morning… it's the smell of victory!" MAJ M, Staff Officer Last edited by MagnumForce; 03-27-2006 at 06:40 AM.

03-27-2006, 08:30 AM	#4 (permalink)
viper94bite Sit speling cheker Joined: Jan 2005 Bike: 2008 Yamaha FZ6 Location: omaha, ne Posts: 1,792	Most salesman are idiots! They only know enough basic information to sell a bike to those that are not experienced riders. Do your own research. I had one that was convinced that the yamaha R1 and 6 were 470lbs. Do your own research, sit on the bikes, even test ride em. Google is your friend as well. __________________ *yippee*

03-28-2006, 10:31 AM	#6 (permalink)
stp1971 May 2007 Member of the month Joined: Mar 2005 Bike: 2004 Suzuki Intruder 1500LC / 2005 Suzuki DL650 V-Strom Location: Douglasville, Georgia Posts: 7,773	All except the gas tank,,lol!!!!! The LC has alot of low end grunt,,if you romp down on it there is a slight hesitation to it then after it starts moving the powerband seems to kick in and it takes off rapidly. I have friends that have VTX1300's and 1800's and they walk away from me everytime,,but they don't get too far ahead. Of course I am not downshifting either. But it is a great bike,,just make sure you get one with the gas tank modification done already before it has a chance to crack. __________________ Biketoberfest 2006 flashback courtesy of Intimid8er: "Like you knew damn well you shouldn't eat something like that, but all be damned to hell, you were gonna eat it!" __________________

03-27-2006, 10:27 AM	#5 (permalink)
NCBoulevard Ditch Magnet Joined: Sep 2005 Bike: C50 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 164	Check the price tag on both bikes. Odds are the Honda cost more which equals more commission in the stealers pocket. As others said, Do your own research. Go for a ride on em. Just don't depend on the stealer for accurate info.

04-28-2006, 02:27 PM	#7 (permalink)
tlwisner Throttle Jockey Joined: Apr 2004 Bike: '05 Boulevard C50 Location: Central Kentucky Posts: 3,208	It doesn't matter which bike is faster or has more hp, it matters if the bike has enough power to satisfy you. Or, just go get a Boss Hoss. __________________ Tim Wisner AMA, SCRC Happiness is something we create

05-25-2008, 10:36 AM	#9 (permalink)
frostbitevinnie No Significant Other Joined: Jul 2007 Bike: 07' C90T 76' MT250 Location: 3rd house NW of the Depot Posts: 2,413	I didn't buy my 90 to race it. I like the VTX but IMO the C90T is a superior machine. The 1800T is still almost $15K and the 1300T is almost $11K. I paid $9.6K new for mine on sale. I am ahead, if not in distance then in $$. What's this about the gas tank cracking and mod. Have not heard that one yet. __________________ "People are more violently opposed to fur than leather, because it's easier to harass rich women than Bikers..." ---Unknown

05-26-2008, 06:35 AM	#11 (permalink)
frostbitevinnie No Significant Other Joined: Jul 2007 Bike: 07' C90T 76' MT250 Location: 3rd house NW of the Depot Posts: 2,413	Looks like my 07' was not a part of the recall but I will inspect it at times anyway. Thanks for the link Krow!!! __________________ "People are more violently opposed to fur than leather, because it's easier to harass rich women than Bikers..." ---Unknown

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