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They are only HARLEYs if you are considering that the Engine only makes it one. The Harley's only real signature feature is the motor, and how it fires. A Harley engine has two pistons, duh. The difference in the Harley engine is that the crankshaft has only one pin, and both piston rods connect to it. This design, combined with the V arrangement of the cylinders, means that the pistons cannot fire at even intervals. Instead of one piston firing every 360 degrees, a Harley engine goes like this: * A piston fires. * The next piston fires at 315 degrees. * There is a 405-degree gap. * A piston fires. * The next piston fires at 315 degrees. * There is a 405-degree gap. And the cycle continues. At idle, you can hear the pop-pop sound followed by a pause. So the sound of a Harley is pop-pop...pop-pop...pop-pop. That is the unique sound of a Harley-Davidson motorcycle, and that's basically it. What most people DO NOT know? The Revolution Engine, was Jointly designed and developed with Porsche in Germany. There has been talk of the Japanese also helping with another motor, because of the problems the motors had. The Panhead being one of the worst... The other thing is, all bike MFGs can now make their bikes sound and run like a Harley, because Honda did it, and Harley tried litigation and withdrew the case. Still, no one does it, they use uneven length exhaust pipes to try and duplicate the sound. My vulcan sounded like one at idle, because the rear manifold pipe was a lot shorter than the front. On February 1st, 1994, the company filed a trademark application for the distinctive sound of a Harley-Davidson motorcycle engine: "The mark consists of the exhaust sound of applicant's motorcycles, produced by V-twin, common crankpin motorcycle engines when the goods are in use". Nine of Harley-Davidson's competitors filed comments opposing the application, arguing that cruiser-style motorcycles of various brands use a single-crankpin V-twin engine which produce a similar sound. Interestingly, when Honda first began making a motorcycle with a 45° V-2 design, the Honda Shadow, it used a more advanced engineering approach with an offset crank design which allows for even firing pulses and higher horsepower because of the reduced vibrational stresses on the engine. However, because potential buyers complained that the Shadow did not 'sound like a Harley,' Honda in 1996 introduced the Shadow American Classic Edition (or ACE) which had a single crank-pin design, reduced horsepower and a much more Harley-like sound. These objections were followed by litigation. After six years, Harley-Davidson withdrew their trademark application. |
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well I am gonna be getting the C109RT soon as I can get my hands on one. they have like 1785cc, I think that is right.... Cant wait to get that bike on the open road. has anyone had the opertunity to ride one yet? if so let me know what you think. PLEASE
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